SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Phrazz wrote:
A good debate usually seems healthy. You have a way of debating that almost makes me physically ill. Maybe that's your goal, well, congratulations. I'm out.


I know how that feels...it's a shame it had to come to this.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
The underlying point was actually the more important part to be honest.

You disagree with the definition I posted, and therefore with my point : fine, it happens.



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Phrazz wrote:
But hard shouldn't be "unfun".

I agree.
But pleasing many while keeping the game on track isn't anything like easy.

If GGG can find solutions what will actually be good for the game, for the players, and wont be a loss for them, then sure, I'd love seeing those.
But that's not what I've seen here so far to be honest.



And the labyrinth puts more emphasis on positioning, which is already an element of the game.
Many other games ( that I have seen mentioned ) also had traps, and it does not fit your view of what an arpg, so that isn't objective.

In an action role playing game, this does fit.
Not everybody likes it, that's another story, but justifying that traps are "bad" because "it does not fit arpg !!!" is basically a fallacy, it's just wrong.

And what matters isn't arpg or anything, it's PoE, and it includes traps now, not only in the lab.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Jun 28, 2017, 7:16:59 AM
holy fuck, 574 pages. Go play already
If I dont reply to you - I dont give a flying duck about your opinion

If you dont reply to me - I dont care either because I dont come back to see who replied to me
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Fruz wrote:
The underlying point was actually the more important part to be honest.

You disagree with the definition I posted, and therefore with my point : fine, it happens.



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Phrazz wrote:
But hard shouldn't be "unfun".

I agree.
But pleasing many while keeping the game on track isn't anything like easy.

If GGG can find solutions what will actually be good for the game, for the players, and wont be a loss for them, then sure, I'd love seeing those.
But that's not what I've seen here so far to be honest.



And the labyrinth puts more emphasis on positioning, which is already an element of the game.
Many other games ( that I have seen mentioned ) also had traps, and it does not fit your view of what an arpg, so that isn't objective.

In an action role playing game, this does fit.
Not everybody likes it, that's another story, but justifying that traps are "bad" because "it does not fit arpg !!!" is basically a fallacy, it's just wrong.

And what matters isn't arpg or anything, it's PoE, and it includes traps now, not only in the lab.


Traps have always been part of arpg's. What is not part of any other arpg besides PoE is platformer-jump-here-run-there content. All top notch arpg's are kill-monster-get-loot game play, including PoE. Platformer-jump-here-run-there is not normal arpg game play. It is silly to claim that it is just because traps are part of normal arpg content. A few traps do not equal platformer-jump-here-run-there content. Chris Wilson and GGG have said on multiple occasions that labyrinth is a different kind of content. Ignoring all the irrefutable evidence seems to be a recent theme for you.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Xavathos wrote:

I know how that feels...it's a shame it had to come to this.


And I think most of us have been both offenders and victims regarding that point in here.
Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile.
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Phrazz wrote:
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Xavathos wrote:

I know how that feels...it's a shame it had to come to this.


And I think most of us have been both offenders and victims regarding that point in here.


Definitely. All of us knowing... love is a battlefield.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
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Xavathos wrote:
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Phrazz wrote:
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Xavathos wrote:

I know how that feels...it's a shame it had to come to this.


And I think most of us have been both offenders and victims regarding that point in here.


Definitely. All of us knowing... love is a battlefield.

Not really. If we go by definition... What is love?
I'm a forum warrior, i was born to post, raised to defend my league. Now my post has been removed, chained and exiled by mods who Ban. Ban is my brother; i do not fear it. I see it in the eyes of men and beasts that i troll. It will take me to play the actual game when i am ready and i am not ready.
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Pyrokar wrote:
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Xavathos wrote:

Definitely. All of us knowing... love is a battlefield.

Not really. If we go by definition... What is love?


Baby, don't hurt me, no more.
Carry on my waypoint son, there'll be peace when maps are done.
Lay your portal gem to rest, don't you die no more.

'Cause it's a bitter sweet symphony this league.
Try to make maps meet, you're a slave to the meta, then you leave.
Last edited by Xavathos#5130 on Jun 28, 2017, 8:39:27 AM
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Xavathos wrote:
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Pyrokar wrote:
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Xavathos wrote:

Definitely. All of us knowing... love is a battlefield.

Not really. If we go by definition... What is love?


Baby, don't hurt me, no more.
That's correct. Xavathos wins.
I'm a forum warrior, i was born to post, raised to defend my league. Now my post has been removed, chained and exiled by mods who Ban. Ban is my brother; i do not fear it. I see it in the eyes of men and beasts that i troll. It will take me to play the actual game when i am ready and i am not ready.
Last edited by Pyrokar#6587 on Jun 28, 2017, 8:44:54 AM
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Pyrokar wrote:

Not really. If we go by definition... What is love?

Well according to Tina Turner it's nothing but a second hand emotion. WHo needs a heart when a heart can be broken.

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