SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

I bothered to check the original quote this time !

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Lab is shit. It is boring tedious and not fun. You telling us we need to learn how to play is irrelevant silly nonsense. ;)

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Turtledove wrote:

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Lab is shit. It is boring tedious and not fun. You telling us we need to learn how to play is irrelevant silly nonsense. ;)

Not as silly as you not understanding what isn't convenient to you on purpose :]

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Al_GGG wrote:

Hey guys,

Please keep the comments civil and focusing on the topic of the thread itself. Please remember to keep your discussion and feedback constructive and free of any personal attacks against other players. Thanks!

This will need to be a sticky above every page in this thread, I'm afraid...

I've only periodically poked my head in here so I may have missed some actual suggested alternatives. But it just occurred to me that GGG set the value of ascendency nodes to be equal to 5 passive points (5 regret orbs to refund one ascendency node). So instead of having the lab give ascendency points, just have them cost 5 passive points each. Each lab could give you 10 passive points instead of 2 ascendency points. Then people who skip the lab could still get their ascendencies without going through the lab.

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mark1030 wrote:

I've only periodically poked my head in here so I may have missed some actual suggested alternatives. But it just occurred to me that GGG set the value of ascendancy nodes to be equal to 5 passive points (5 regret orbs to refund one ascendancy node). So instead of having the lab give ascendancy points, just have them cost 5 passive points each. Each lab could give you 10 passive points instead of 2 ascendancy points. Then people who skip the lab could still get their ascendancies without going through the lab.

There would still need to be some challenge that would have to be overcome but it's an interesting idea. Another option that GGG designers could play with might be 3 or 4 passive points per ascendancy point instead of 5 passive points.

Poll guy here

i dont understand how the lab can inspire so much hate from both sides.

I am NOT a proponent of it. I would like to see it changed substantially: checkpoints and more control over enchantments. The grinding is only fun to a limit, and there are disconnects.

If it would stay, I would go my merry way after getting my ascendancy points. Sure, I would hate it when I fail or get disconnected.

Now there are good things about the lab also. The chests can be very lucrative. And running uber lab for 'noobs' is also nice for making a buck, via fees or enchantments.

But, I would rather map ;/


It was a bad idea GGG, make it not so bad.

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Turtledove wrote:

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mark1030 wrote:

I've only periodically poked my head in here so I may have missed some actual suggested alternatives. But it just occurred to me that GGG set the value of ascendancy nodes to be equal to 5 passive points (5 regret orbs to refund one ascendancy node). So instead of having the lab give ascendancy points, just have them cost 5 passive points each. Each lab could give you 10 passive points instead of 2 ascendancy points. Then people who skip the lab could still get their ascendancies without going through the lab.

There would still need to be some challenge that would have to be overcome but it's an interesting idea. Another option that GGG designers could play with might be 3 or 4 passive points per ascendancy point instead of 5 passive points.

this is not a bad idea, and something the scion already has in her "ascendancy tree"