SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

I agree with this thread. Free Ascendancy from the labyrinth content.

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Turtledove wrote:

If I wanted to play traps, it would NOT be the crap in PoE. It would be a totally different game that has fun traps and better control, e.g., Frogger, Mario, Prince of Persia, or Tomb Raider.

edit: @GehennamIgnis96 Not sure what you were trying to prove but, I tried Geometry Dash and it was crap, still more fun than labyrinth though.

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Daily reminder the labyrinth is still garbage content and Izaro is way too overpowered compared to the mobs that die in 1 second in the same area. Also it's a 2vs1, considering the third phase nukes my GPU and I have to struggle with 10fps.

Personally I hate labyrinth and i realize GGG put way too many hours in to just trash the idea. So at the end how about instead of giving Ascendancy Points out right you get a token that gives you 2 points. Each token would be marked with its appropriate difficulty. The token would be tradable. So this way the people that don't want to run lab and hate it for any reason can just buy the token and the labyrinth remains just as rewarding if not more so, because now you can trade the points away for currency if you are good at running labyrinth.

Side note, the reason i hate running labyrinth is the traps. I plan on taking a hiatus from the game until labyrinth is fixed/better. If boredom overwhelms me, maybe I will come back but not until AP are no longer gated behind me running labyrinth myself.

Last big patch notes clearly indicate what GGG plan to change about the lab.

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DarkKaine wrote:

Daily reminder the labyrinth is still garbage content and Izaro is way too overpowered compared to the mobs that die in 1 second in the same area. Also it's a 2vs1, considering the third phase nukes my GPU and I have to struggle with 10fps.

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Brastin wrote:

Personally I hate labyrinth and i realize GGG put way too many hours in to just trash the idea. So at the end how about instead of giving Ascendancy Points out right you get a token that gives you 2 points. Each token would be marked with its appropriate difficulty. The token would be tradable. So this way the people that don't want to run lab and hate it for any reason can just buy the token and the labyrinth remains just as rewarding if not more so, because now you can trade the points away for currency if you are good at running labyrinth.

Side note, the reason i hate running labyrinth is the traps. I plan on taking a hiatus from the game until labyrinth is fixed/better. If boredom overwhelms me, maybe I will come back but not until AP are no longer gated behind me running labyrinth myself.

Thank you both for voicing your feedback to GGG on the poor labyrinth game play. You're numbers 658 and 659 on the list, as the list grows longer our voices grow stronger. Over 270 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 650 posters in support

@Bastin, I really like your idea. I believe that it is ascension idea number VI in the OP. I too have pretty much stopped playing PoE. My guess is that GGG will have a solution for us in the 3.0 release. I do have fond memories of how much fun PoE used to be before labyrinth was required and I hope that great game is restored in 3.0.

I agree with that, we all knew 2.5 wouldn't change anything.

And we all know GGG says 3.0 is gonna change a lot.

Which means even if they don't change the Lab itself, it can become less of an issue.

The point is we don't know how much are they gonna change or not in 3.0.

But until then, we can only keep in mind how much we hate the lab now.

And if 3.0 results in a massive disappointment, then well, the game was fun while it was fun at least, and all the lab lovers can rejoice you won't have to deal at least with me anymore.

Have fun.

I'm happy to hear that I'm not alone in hating the lab. I've just recently switched to HC as an added challenge because I like caring about defenses and whether I live or die during the core game, but I absolutely hate the arcade game-play that we find inside the lab in the form of traps.

What I like about arpgs or rpgs in general is that you can be rewarded for game knowledge, and for grinding easier zones if you feel that it is too risky to progress (either because you're underleveled or undergeared). The lab runs contrary to this essential aspect of rpgs. It doesn't matter whether you are level 100 and geared to the teeth, if you make a dumb mistake or accidentally sit on a trap too long because you couldn't see the exit on time, you're toast.

I would actually be sort of fine with this IF it was completely optional content, which it isn't. End game is tuned to Ascendancies, and Ascending is a defining aspect of every current build. The lab is no longer "optional content" (and in my opinion it never was).

It's nerve wrecking to know that you can lose everything you've done so far on a piece of content that you would never run but you need to because it is the only way of progressing through the skill tree.

If you hate the lab too, please be vocal about it. Let the lab exist but make it OPTIONAL as it should be, by setting ascendancies FREE.