Can some one explain the crit changes, I'm to stupid.

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acme_myst wrote:

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Pewzor wrote:

There are a lot of players out there that can actually play PoE without stupidity legacy item carries I know it sounds crazy but it's true.

Your point being..? Did I write anything to the contrary?

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

- wall of good explanation -

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Pewzor wrote:

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acme_myst wrote:

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Pewzor wrote:

There are a lot of players out there that can actually play PoE without stupidity legacy item carries I know it sounds crazy but it's true.

Your point being..? Did I write anything to the contrary?

na was just thinking it's kinda stupid for you say losing some crit multi is bricking... very stupid.

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acme_myst wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

ya I think almost everyone in this thread has it wrong tbh. I was certain of what the changes were, and now Ive read a load of people who seem to have got something else entirely from the words, so Im forced to doubt myself as it is entirely possible I have it wrong. But Ive reread the notes 3 times now and Im still of the opinion most people have it wrong.

A few I believe are right, Neph I believe is right here

Yeah, as far as I can tell, you're absolutely correct. Reading skills confirmed OP.


It's also interesting to note that, relatively speaking, there is absolutely no change in the efficiency of using legacy gear vs non-legacy gear.

Compare a T1 38% multi roll with a legacy 70% multi roll. Under the current system these add, respectively, 150*0.38=57% multi, and 150*0.7=105% multi. That makes the legacy mod 105/57=1.84 times as efficient as the non-legacy mod.

Under the new system, they respectively add 100*0.38=0.38% multi and 100*0.7=70% multi, meaning that the legacy mod is STILL 70/38=1.84 times as efficient! In other words, there is no change to the relative efficiency of using legacy mods.

Furthermore, there is no change in terms of relative gains. In particular, the increase from the base 150% multi was previously 57%/150%=0.38 for the non-legacy, and 70%/150%=0.7 for the legacy mod. In other words, the relative gain of using legacy gear was 0.7/0.38=1.84 (again).

Also under the new system, the relative gains are 38/150=0.2533 and 70/150=0.4667, making the legacy mod still 0.4667/0.2533=1.84 times as efficient.

In short, although crit multi (on explicit mods) received a 33% nerf across the board, legacy gear is still comparatively as strong as before.

... Math also confirmed OP, I guess.


I also feel that a lot of this confusion stems from a misunderstanding of how the current crit multi system works, as the patch notes seemed perfectly clear to me. In that sense, the guys at GGG may actually have a good point with changing how this all works.

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mazul wrote:

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acme_myst wrote:

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1 + 0.10*6*(3 + 0.57) vs 1 + 0.10*6*(3 + 1.05) means 3.142 vs 3.43 => The latter has 9.17% more dmg.

1 + 0.10*6*(3 + 0.38) vs 1 + 0.10*6*(3 + 0.70) means 3.028 vs 3.22 => The latter has 6.34% more dmg.

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acme_myst wrote:

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mazul wrote:

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acme_myst wrote:

*snip*

1 + 0.10*6*(3 + 0.57) vs 1 + 0.10*6*(3 + 1.05) means 3.142 vs 3.43 => The latter has 9.17% more dmg.

1 + 0.10*6*(3 + 0.38) vs 1 + 0.10*6*(3 + 0.70) means 3.028 vs 3.22 => The latter has 6.34% more dmg.

Could you give some interpretation for those numbers? Can't quite follow along with the computations here.

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mazul wrote:

You should reckognize it from how the crit multiplying factor for dps is calculated.