Let's Take a Moment to Appreciate How Amazing That New Belt is for Summoners

My current summoner build cannot use that belt at all

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johnKeys wrote:

All is fun and games, till someone gets Punctured/corruped-blood.
Tries staunching - applies to minions.
Die while all minions happily run around on full life.

Dominus (2nd form) likes this belt.

hey at least you wont need to resummons the spectres right?

Its an extremely dangerous belt. I get the feeling it will be the death of many summoners unless some portion of the flasks affect the summoner .

a much better compromise would have been 50/50. life based characters are way to dependent on flasks in panic situations to survive

and i would hate to have yet another summoner item that only really works.... for es hybrid characters (like bloody midnight)


And its also misleading. true permanent summoner builds already have near immortal spectres as is. So i forsee those builds doing what they have already been doing and use heavy belts.


Im gona collect it anyway because you know ... shiny summoner item is shiny but still the black and white extreme power and extreme trade off design of it is terrifying to me.

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

Its an extremely dangerous belt. I get the feeling it will be the death of many summoners unless some portion of the flasks affect the summoner .

a much better compromise would have been 50/50. life based characters are way to dependent on flasks in panic situations to survive

and i would hate to have yet another summoner item that only really works.... for es hybrid characters (like bloody midnight)


And its also misleading. true permanent summoner builds already have near immortal spectres as is. So i forsee those builds doing what they have already been doing and use heavy belts.


Im gona collect it anyway because you know ... shiny summoner item is shiny but still the black and white extreme power and extreme trade off design of it is terrifying to me.

I think its more for CI Summoner than anything else.

This belt enabled unique flasks (taste of Hate, Atziri's, doedre's) to affect summons. It could be a huge increase to summon DPS.

Ok, here goes idea #2

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Coruscating_Elixir
Removes all but one Life on use

Minion Instability

Beacon of Corruption from Ascendancy Necromancer

...suicide zombie build?

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Waves_blade wrote:

I think its more for CI Summoner than anything else.

This belt enabled unique flasks (taste of Hate, Atziri's, doedre's) to affect summons. It could be a huge increase to summon DPS.

kind of over kill considering summons already do a ton of dps , even for ci its going to be a very dangerous belt

30EX to look at the belt

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Turbodevil wrote:

Ok, here goes idea #2

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Coruscating_Elixir
Removes all but one Life on use

Minion Instability

Beacon of Corruption from Ascendancy Necromancer

...suicide zombie build?

ALLAHU AKBAR

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Vipermagi wrote:

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

kind of over kill considering summons already do a ton of dps , even for ci its going to be a very dangerous belt

Could one build their Summoner for less damage output but more tankiness instead? I haven't played summoner in forever. The belt make your Minions ridiculous through Flasks, so they don't need nearly as much support from gear or passives.
(Guardian forever, give everything a big chunk of Armour)

Well the thing is .. minions are you tankieness. The whole gimmick to a summoner is that most of their gear is purposefully bad to make up for the fact that summons eat most of their hits.

you could reasonably drop 15 nodes if you wanted and try using these flasks to make up for it. but i get the feeling it wont be as smooth as people want.

flasks are the fundamental defensive mechanic summoners have outside of their summons even for ci you need the flasks to reduce some of the really big things down into manageable chunks your es tank can digest.


summoners cannot leech through things like bleed , corrupted blood or reflect like many other builds can nor can they stack a ton of regen due to where they are in the tree. ci es works with them but you have to deal with the fact that you will either need to suffer low base es or sacrifice some summoning items.

the loss of a staunching / heat flask alone is really really really REAAAAAAAAAAAALY scary to me as a summoner. so much so that i dropped the two high rolled animation flasks i used to use.

and honestly my minions didnt seem to care about that at all.