No-quality gem sink recipe (combine several gems to get a new random)

you srsly say we shouldnt do this because of bots which shouldnt be in the game anyway? if there are players who want to do that 200times for one gcp ok well let them, as long as they do it themselves. it will take enough time anyway. but saying that this is a bad idea because of bots which shouldnt be ingame is... stupid

"

it will take enough time anyway. but saying that this is a bad idea because of bots which shouldnt be ingame is... stupid

It's not stupid, it's practical. The most elementary of bots can do it. Log in, kill first quest guy, pickup gem, log out, login, kill first quest guy: wash, rinse, repeat. Implementing the recipe as stated would lead to massive GCP deflation. Knowing this, and being careful about it is smart, not "stupid."

youre not getting my point. how can you say that an idea is bad because of something that shouldnt be there? i dont think it is our job to create ideas that bots wont be able to use. why do we need to worry bout bots ? thats the GGG part to delete bot accounts. i mean, i get what you say and it is true, but as i said, there shouldnt be any bots, thats gggs aim..

"

...what you say and it is true,...

I know. ;-P

"

...youre not getting my point...

I was getting your point perfectly fine, however you may be missing mine:

Getting rid of bots isn't that easy, and by the time you can catch up with them, the damage will be done. Accounts on PoE are free. If you delete one bot account, they will make 100 more. Catching them and deleting their accounts faster than they make them: ain't gonna happen.

So while what you are saying is true in theory, in practice it's just awful.

just dont pick it up if its worthless ;)

€: i like OPs sig, coz i know the scenario "death by phone call". playing default tho =)

You could make it though that you cannot sell them for a q-gem but instead buy them. In 3rd act of merciless, a "blank" gem that turns into a random 1% one in the stash.

assuming that the itemlevel of the result is bound to the itemlevel of the inputs, making a special exception for the first gem is unnecessary... there aren't any drop-only gems with a very low starting level, and its very easy to get the hillock-bot outputs by simply starting the appropriate class and getting to town

+1 to OP

"

Milani wrote:

youre not getting my point. how can you say that an idea is bad because of something that shouldnt be there? i dont think it is our job to create ideas that bots wont be able to use. why do we need to worry bout bots ? thats the GGG part to delete bot accounts. i mean, i get what you say and it is true, but as i said, there shouldnt be any bots, thats gggs aim..

Locks on our houses are annoying and create the risk of being locked out. They also were buggy: earlier versions locked the door on both sides, creating a nasty fire risk.

We don't start making doors that just open as you pass by because thieves could get into our home. The thieves shouldn't be there, but they are so we have to consider them when deciding what kind of doors we should install.


Same goes for this game and bots.

And you ignored the majority of the post which referenced regular legit players that play games that would laugh at the 'difficulty' of getting to L100 here. We have such players in the game now. They would be MORe than willing to exploit this idea for easy, mindless, access to %20 gems.

And the quality talk isn't needed. The entire point seems to be making use of extra gems. Trading them in for a random is enough to warrant keeping them and doesn't add in a horrible exploit.

Interesting I had a similar idea to combine skill gems (for quality, not another random gem), but thought a good way to prevent or reduce bots would be to require leveled skill gems. I actually had a few ideas here (combining gems is the last one):

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/389503

But I can't get anybody to make any comments. Is it O.K. to post my thread here? Would you guys be willing to take a look and offer input there? Or should I abandon all hope and post my stuff here or start new threads?