Donald Trump

'the bush card'. The fact that 'the bush card' even exists. I mean there is literally no argument against how bad of shape he left office.

I mean you can counter with the 'Obama card' I guess, you know high approval and long streak of growth. Or the 'Clinton card', you know high approval and long streak of growth?

And that map pretty much shows the mid west as his largest support, thanks for the contributing evidence.

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Xavderion wrote:

Meltdown compilation of The Young Turks on election night: https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=2LOxM-V8yjI

Fuck is it entertaining.

I just watched half of it, ROFLOL! TYT is melting down. And when liberals melt they scream, throw tantrums, swear, cuss, threaten, etc., etc. Oh that was so good. I'm going to have to reduce my salt intake after lapping up all of these liberal tears.

EDIT: 21:21 starts blaming his own candidate

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LostForm wrote:

And that map pretty much shows the mid west as his largest support, thanks for the contributing evidence.

You're claiming the mid-west as everything west of the the New England region? Hahaha Apparently you think swing states like Florida and Pennsylvania are "mid-west"?

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Xavderion wrote:

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DalaiLama wrote:

Reach out - touch hate

Your own personal Soros
Someone to feel your pain
Someone who's sane
Your own personal Soros
Someone to feel your pain
Someone who's sane

Bernie's been schlonged
And the polls are wrong
Florida's blown
And the Red threat's grown
Tune in to CNN
and we'll pretend we still can win

Take second best
To this Orange Clown Fest
Things he suggests
leave you so distressed
Not just a blogger
You know I'm a Birddogger


Reach out - touch hate
Reach out - touch hate

Your own personal Soros
Someone to hear your tweets
Someone who cheats
Your own personal Soros
Someone to hear your tweets
Someone who cheats

Heart in your throat
As you watch the vote
Polls and quotes
while the rednecks gloat
Give up your thoughts of free will
I'll make you a violent shill

Reach out - touch hate
Your own personal Soros
Reach out - touch hate

^ top kek

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cipher_nemo wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

Meltdown compilation of The Young Turks on election night: https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=2LOxM-V8yjI

Fuck is it entertaining.

I just watched half of it, ROFLOL! TYT is melting down. And when liberals melt they scream, throw tantrums, swear, cuss, threaten, etc., etc. Oh that was so good. I'm going to have to reduce my salt intake after lapping up all of these liberal tears.

EDIT: 21:21 starts blaming his own candidate

Ana Kasparian: "hopefully after the election is over the rhetoric will calm down"

*her candidate of choice loses*

"OMFG FUCK ANY WOMAN WHO DIDN'T VOTE FOR CLINTON I HAVE 0 FUCKING RESPECT FOR YOU FUUUCCCCKKKK"

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cipher_nemo wrote:

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LostForm wrote:

And that map pretty much shows the mid west as his largest support, thanks for the contributing evidence.

You're claiming the mid-west as everything west of the the New England region? Hahaha Apparently you think swing states like Florida and Pennsylvania are "mid-west"?

well PA is border line Midwest. Wisconsin firmly mid west. Michigan is borderline Midwest. Trump won them by a combined ~70k votes, about half the margain he lost Mecklenburg county north Carolina.

NC at least the Dem governor won. So they know, first hand, that republican policies are shit, bad for freedom, bad for growth, good at making people really mad.

Democrats won most of the governor seats up for election this time. 8 out of 14 went to dems. Some of these states still went trump though, even after turning the more local state government. (and the converse for Vermont)

Some very weird disconnects here, like they must be burned first hand within the last year or so to remember the damages repubs do. Well, we have given ourselves an almost unprecedented chance to be burned again, really badly this time. (that or vote count fraud)

Out in the Midwest, they don't seem to care that they are sold out perpetually by the same people. One strong correlation there is fundamentalist religion and also a strong need to be very concerned with how other people, people they don't know, need to live their personal lives, while they themselves smoke meth and walk around mean mugging everyone.

And florida...well florida is home of florida man, nobody really wants to be claimed by florida man.

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LostForm wrote:

And florida...well florida is home of florida man, nobody really wants to be claimed by florida man.

I told Florida man to voter for Trump and he actually did it the madman!

This reminds me of the bush election where if the democrats hadn't asked for a vote recount in Florida Al Gore probably could have won. It would've been funny if the same thing happened again this time.

When virtue signaling goes too far.

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Antnee wrote:

You're huffing paint fumes if you think you can just keep the pre-existing conditions clause and not keep the individual mandate. Doing that would cause premiums to not just balloon, but skyrocket. It's like they're purposefully trying to break it even more so that...

...oh.

I don't know if they will have to keep the individual mandate or not. I do agree with you that if they don't, the costs look like they would cause the system to implode. What other solutions are possible, I'm not certain of. I don't think their intent is to cause a collapse of it. I think their effort will be on trying to make it more financially sound, and less subject to massive price hikes.

It will be a huge task to solve, and one in which they will need good input from all sides. If they need to keep the individual mandate (and since it IS a tax, the new bill will have to originate in the Houe) to make it work, that isn't a deal breaker. That the new plan will be crafted with bipartisan effort, carefully thought out, and financially sound - without leaving people with no care due to costs, or substandard care, is what is important to me.

If the deal ends up being 87.8% keeping the existing plan, but the 12.2% changes make the plan work properly - I'm OK with that. I want this thing to work for everyone - I really don't care who "wins" on whether the plan is "scrapped" "repealed" or remains very similar.

If the plan comes out financially sound, affordable, and keeps everyone under the umbrella without compromising care levels - than I'm 10,000% OK with accepting any and all criticism of whether Trump didn't stick to the original method he promised.

If Ben Carson heads up the effort, I think it will turn out to be a very good thing. If the democrats get to claim a big victory and the plan turns out well, than so be it. They should get credit if they actively help try to improve the ACA.