Donald Trump

ya man those 850 votes from Podunk county where ever compared to every major city in America, that is a real mandate.

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soneka101 wrote:

From the amount of data without context you dumped here we reach the conclusion that the USA is the top 1 in terms of unwanted interventions around of the world, and because of that the USA should refrain from intervening even if it's requested from small countries(or maybe the UN) that don't hold enough military to stop other big bullies.

The USA is the biggest bully therefore we can conclude that the world would be so much better if they just chill out.

Don't do anything, just step back and watch. It's not like there are crazy people in power out there...

I'm sorry I annoyed you with facts and information. I would've tried with helpless attempts at irony but I didn't know it was your thing.

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soneka101 wrote:

If the U.S. doesn't protect the NATO countries Russia will expand,

BS. It's NATO & US who has been encroaching on Russia in the last 20 years. Russia has no interest in expanding anywhere. Yes, they took Crimea (after the US sponsored coup in Ukraine), which is populated mostly by native Russian people, but before you comment that, learn about the history of the peninsula.

NATO has been moving aggressively toward Russia in the last decades. The US has been sistematically dismantling ex-soviet client states in the Middle East. Do you remmember the "anti-missile shield", Bush tried to set up in eastern Europe? Supposedly against Iran or some shit like that, lol...

Europe has no interest in having bad relations with Russia on behalf of US geopolitical games, so the sooner US military packs the bags from here, the better. The US will have a lot of "work" in the South China sea in the future, anyway.

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LostForm wrote:

ya man those 850 votes from Podunk county where ever compared to every major city in America, that is a real mandate.

That attitude is why your side lost. Podunk counties all over the country showed up in droves to vote while people in the cities stayed home. Your side lost big time.

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kolyaboo wrote:

I don't recall seeing this much overreaction from the right 8 years ago.

You don't recall, therefore the last 8 years of petty obstruction, dogwhistling, "illegitimate", bullshit never happened.

Dude.

This is the second time in 16 years that dems have been screwed by the electoral college. The anger is just.

It's the other way around. The Electoral college was part of the balancing act of states vs population. When the electoral college was first set up, the 2 senate votes represented 27% of the college. With the population increase, the smaller states have been getting shafted and the senate portion of the college vote is now only about 18%.

To balance it back out and make it consitutionally fair, there should be 368 represenatives and 468 electoral college votes.

If the balance was restored the results would be ~ Trump 266 EC votes and Hillary 202 EC votes.

For those unfamiliar with the system, there's a decent overview here:

http://dailysignal.com/2016/11/07/why-the-founders-created-the-electoral-college/

The message from America should be clear:

lmao that's great +1 :)

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Bars wrote:

I'm sorry I annoyed you with facts and information. I would've tried with helpless attempts at irony but I didn't know it was your thing.

You didn't annoy me, you hurt my feelings. I won't be able to sleep tonight because of you. I might even stop using the internet just to avoid people like you with all those facts and information in their disposition. I hope karma bites back at you for all that you've done to me!

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LostForm wrote:

ya man those 850 votes from Podunk county where ever compared to every major city in America, that is a real mandate.

Its a balance between states' rights and federalism. It is part and parcel of our Constitution and how we have operated ever since. I know that many liberals don't respect the Constitution - which is funny considering how quickly they run screaming for 14th amendment Mommy, or Establishment Clause Mommy, or Roe v Wade Mommy.

What people think of as individual rights under much of the Constitution wouldn't mean crap, if it weren't for many of them being carved away from federal power by the states.

Ignorance isn't power.

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soneka101 wrote:

From the amount of data without context you dumped here we reach the conclusion that the USA is the top 1 in terms of unwanted interventions around of the world, and because of that the USA should refrain from intervening even if it's requested from small countries(or maybe the UN) that don't hold enough military to stop other big bullies.

The USA is the biggest bully therefore we can conclude that the world would be so much better if they just chill out.

Don't do anything, just step back and watch. It's not like there are crazy people in power out there...

I'm sorry I annoyed you with facts and information. I would've tried with helpless attempts at irony but I didn't know it was your thing.

What you posted was a good reminder that our foreign policy needs a perspective that violence shouldn't be the first solution. That's supposedly why the commander in chief is a civilian.

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LostForm wrote:

ya man those 850 votes from Podunk county where ever compared to every major city in America, that is a real mandate.

That attitude is why your side lost. Podunk counties all over the country showed up in droves to vote while people in the cities stayed home. Your side lost big time.

The great thing is, we all lost. You just don't know you've been conned, yet.

Report back when literally none of the Sacred Manufacturing Jobs return. (But manufacturing kinda does). Gonna start an anti-automation campaign next?

Dalai: fully aware of the founders intentions. They also intended that both parties acted in good faith; what we have now is an absolute tyranny of the minority. The Senate is a good enough safeguard with a pissbaby GOP.

Please, do defend their year long tantrum over the supreme court. Tell me the founders intended that.

Democrats have been playing this "high road" garbage for too long, and I look forward to them being just as disgusting as the GOP for 4-8 years.

(One can hope)

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LostForm wrote:

I don't think you have seen salt yet honestly. When he gets in and starts doing crazy shit...

Well I don't think the gun manufacturers are going to have to worry about a fall off. If he does even 1/10 of what he campaigned on, we are headed to war.

If it was civil war what you meant I don't think it will happen easily. It would take a YUGE mess up from President Trump to make democrats engage in anything like civil war, after all they lack a leader that wants to rile up things, Obama and Hillary wouldn't do that. The only person so far that I've seen talking about things like "revolution" it was Katy Perry. It would be insane(and fun maybe) if she was the instigator of a civil war.

If President Trump had lost tho, I bet he would make his voters go crazy, and sincerely I don't know which is worse: Trump winning, or loosing.