Internal Auction house / Trading for money
" Is this troll thread? " Oh, it is. " Because despite some flaws poe.trade is batter than ingame AH. "Is there such a thing as an absolute, timeless enemy? There is no such thing, and never has been. And the reason is that our enemies are human beings like us. They can only be our enemies in relative terms." Last edited by kamil1210#5432 on Sep 21, 2015, 11:36:23 AM
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Wow. This thread has potential!
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OP is clearly wrong and RMT is NOT the way to go.
However, it is interesting to note that most if not all players that are against an AH also sell on POE.trade, which is literally an auction house, just without the ability to buy offline. This may be because they have to do so to remain relevant in the economy, which is a valid point, but it still indicates a problem with the structure of the game. Why should I have to use a 3rd party site to play this game properly? Don't get me wrong, I love using poe.trade, but it always seemed kind of sketchy to use some random site to search for items. It works well enough, but it just seems wrong. I played Hellgate: London online for quite a while with an auction house, and that was fine. I could get the items I wanted for reasonable prices and still had fun searching for items. This is exactly what poe.trade does. I get the items I want for reasonable prices and still play the game to find items. I just have to use a random 3rd party site to do it... Another solution would be a shop system, where a player can throw all their items for sale into a stash tab or something, and then other players IN GAME could browse through and then talk to the seller to get that item. You could have a master that does this or some random NPC in some random town. Doesn't really matter. I'm probably ignoring all sorts of intricate economic impacts that a GGG-created AH or whatever would have, but TBH I don't really care. There needs to be a better in-game system that DOES NOT use the party notice boards or trade chat. |
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The thing is, using poe trade isn't necessary. People played just fine before it came along.
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" It may be true that people played "just fine" without poe.trade, but you can't be seriously competitive in the economy without using it now. Sure, you can play self-found, but that's not what this thread is about. How would one go about finding an upgrade to a rare item without looking on poe.trade? Craft it? Not easily, you still need several different rolls to be a good item, and finding all of them at once is relatively rare (to the point that you aren't likely to find one yourself that also fits your character). You could look on trade chat, but that's a tiny fraction of the number of items being sold, the owner of the item HAS to be online for you to see it, and it's frankly an awful interface for finding an item. Don't even get me started on the WTS/WTB public parties. I played without poe.trade. It wasn't easy, and it wasn't a whole lot of fun to be stuck with horrendous gear. My point is that we shouldn't have to use a 3rd party site to fulfill the functions that poe.trade provides. |
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AH ruined D3. Blizzard was forced to scrap it. Let's bring it to PoE? You gotta be kidding me.
Yes, the difference between manual trading and fully automated AH is that big. It changes the game completely. |
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" Real money auction house ruined D3 not the gold one, the gold one could have stayed, it was pay to win literally with the real money one... And how it is different in looking into a buyout item , bordering that seller for 1 chaos while he is doing map and exchanging it with minimal conversation which result in nothing except the said item ? If you want to socialize you can do it in whatever way you want.... Last edited by ffogell#6809 on Sep 21, 2015, 6:49:44 PM
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" The RMAH was such a terrible idea that when they heard about it several countries outlawed it. However the Gold AH was also still terrible. Blizzard even admitted to having made the drop rates worse because they had to balance around the AH existing. It was not fun because all you grind for is the easiest and largest amount of gold you can get so you can buy the upgrade you need. As trying to find that upgrade due to how buying gear killed the internal reward cycle of the game resulted in an upgrade that was 30min to 1 hour away in a self found environment moved to 1-2 months or even a year because you kept buying gear that was well beyond what the game is going to throw at you. The RMAH got nuked because it was a terrible idea to try to combat the RMT that the game was going to attract. The GAH got nuked because it broke the game. When Gold was more valuable then the gear that dropped in your game it was a huge issue. |
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" Nope. Not just RMAH. If it was just RMAH they would have kept the gold one. But it was both of them. I've played it for a while. Never cared about RMAH at all, never even used it. Just the gold one for gear upgrades. Ended up with 100% of my items obtained via AH instead of playing the game. Which changed from APRG to a game of last second bidding with the help of stopwatches. You set up a 1 minute stopwatch on your phone and spam-refresh the AH until it changes from 2 minutes to 1 minute left on the bid, and hit the button. And then the "FUN" begins. Whoever manages to enter the last bid at the very last second wins. Then flip it for more gold and use the gold to grab BiS items for your chars at the last second. Etc etc etc. I became a total expert in that. But when there was no way to upgrade anymore, it dawned on me that I wasn't playing the game I wanted to play all that time. Said 'fuck this', logged off and never came back. I hear Blizzard has seen the light eventually, but I have zero desire to come back to D3. Automated AH will do it to PoE too. |
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Yeah we already have poe.trade and Procurement.
I'd rather expect GGG to work on the real problems instead of this. |
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