Statement by previous GGG employee
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Oh don't take me wrong, it's not as if I don't recognise that you're trying to help. It's just that I don't want to waste my time in setting up a shop. It takes far too much time to do it manually every time and I refuse to use procurement... not that it would help me much anyway cause it's something good for people with tons of free stash slots.
I fully recognise that I am hurting for it in the long run but at the same time I refuse to waste my time in setting up a shop. If I can waste time in setting up a shop, then certainly that time is better directed towards playing and actually having fun. Meanwhile, GGG does not get any money from me at all until they change the market. I don't even ask that they change the way sockets, links and colouring works which is downright horrible and hinders fun by not allowing people to fully mess up with whacky builds or simply by giving the players the customisation to make their spells seem more awesome. But the trading, that is the least I demand out of them when the game is so trading intensive. "The heavens burned
The stars cried out And under the ashes of infinity Hope, scarred and bleeding breathed it's last." |
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" That's fair. I'm not going to argue that you're wrong, you're not. But if you ever decide to setup acquisition and price a few individual things competitively you'll see the currency start to pour in. All told it would take you about 15 mins to setup. If that's an unacceptable loss of your time I can respect that. Don't forget to drink your milk 👌
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" You know who also does all the things instantly?
Tip
Not human beings
We have been talking about this over and over again. And if you do not know what caused D3 trade system to fall, don't talk. First, do your homework, and then claim stuff. All you have said is in vain, because all of this have been already brought up and debunked (multiple times). Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. Last edited by Perq#4049 on Sep 15, 2015, 1:03:36 AM
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" I know, real money trade house was what did it. And I am given to understand that the non money trade house still exists? Meaning the one where you can trade with ingame currency only right? Even if such isn't the case, D3 loot system was redesigned to have drops match more your class and not only that but to drop the kind of items you need most. So it tends to drop towards your oldest level gear. Charan - Let me guess, your opinion is that the trade is good as it is and doesn't needs to change? Cuase if so, of course they listened, they listened to the bad side of the small percentage of high paying players who benefict more from keeping a bad system as it is. I don't say that they only listen to the people who pay a lot, I'm saying that they highly base what they do with the game based on those people. Whenever there is a point where community feedback dictates how something is to be handled, it's the people who pay a lot of money that influence it. The people who pay less or nothing only determine anything if there is a disagreement amoung the people who pay a lot and a decision cannot be reached based on their opinions. "The heavens burned
The stars cried out And under the ashes of infinity Hope, scarred and bleeding breathed it's last." |
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" Sorry but what killed the D3 market and would kill the PoE market as well is market efficiency. In PoE it is possible to sell reasonable gear at acceptable prices precisely because the market is not efficient. This is something that those who demand a "better" trading system simply do not seem to understand. |
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" I think it's funny how you base your opinion on things you don't know anything about. Why does every game has to be the same? I like PoE trading, sure it could use some help and nothing is perfect, but that it requires effort to get the most out of it, is the thing i love about it. People like you will always keep complaining. I don't wanna do this, i don't wanna do that. Blablabla. It's getting really old. |
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" No, it was the real money trading that killed D3 market which is why it was removed. After that was removed and the new loot system was introduced everyone had nothing but praises for it so clearly you are wrong. Miská - Not every game has to be the same, but certain features are to be expected in any game. Would you imagine yourself playing a command and conquer game today without a click and drag function to select multiple units? And let me tell you, I played Dune 2 when there was no click and drag, you had to select each unit individually then chose on a side menu whether you wanted to move, attack, patrol or stop and then click on the target. Was it good? No, it was goddamn aweful but at the time no better system existed. To a degree this is what this system emulated. A very bad an innefictient system that is no longer used by any game for a very good reason. No game which has trading as one of it's primary functions has a bad trading that rellies on outside of the game help for it to work. No game where trading is so important to get anywhere has a trading system which makes trading take several hours. One of the things that tells you that something is wrong with a game is when you have to actually put efforth outside of the game to get what you want rather than inside of the game. And BTW, I am not one personwho complains about everything, but I'll speak up when I see something that clearly needs to be improved. "The heavens burned The stars cried out And under the ashes of infinity Hope, scarred and bleeding breathed it's last." Last edited by Elhazzared#4582 on Sep 15, 2015, 7:24:19 AM
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" You are making empty claims that don't exist just to make your point look stronger. I have no problem with people striving for improvement. Every game can use improvement. But not based on false accusations. You don't need hours for trading. Hell, you don't even have to trade at all. In WB this league i decided to play more of the game instead of focusing on trading that much. And it taught me that even though spending alot of time each day trading will get me more ingame currency, you can achieve the same thing abit slower with a 5min per day investment. If that is to much to invest you should seriously consider wether PoE is a game you want to play. The tools are there, GGG left us with all the choice. You are the one making those choices how to play their game. Just because you can't have everything while doing nothing doesn't mean it's a bad system. (I'm not saying you want to do nothing to achieve trading, it's just a generalized statement) The daily experiences i have trading is an addition to the game for me and many others. We don't have to stare at an AH all day to make a penny. You can just sell your stuff to real people of whoem most are actually pretty nice folks. (There are bad apples everywhere) |
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" You make very bold claims for someone who does not know the most basic facts. As it happens, all auction houses were closed down in D3 and trading (aside from trivial stuff) was completely eliminated from this game. I find this again and again: the "I want easier trading" crowd simply has no grip on what the result would be, if what they demand would actually be implemented. Last edited by Faendris#5470 on Sep 15, 2015, 8:14:24 AM
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double post
Last edited by Faendris#5470 on Sep 15, 2015, 8:11:32 AM
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