The problem with Exalted Orbs

Trying to enforce limits on a dynamic system like the PoE currency is quite hard...

If the fixed exchange rate is set too low, nobody will use it and there's no point in it. There'll not be any new Exalted Orbs in the system.
If it is set too high, everyone will use it and there's no point in having a market. There'll be no Chaos Orbs in the system.

Letting the rate be determined by the market is the best solution.

Note that the comparing the EX/C exchange to Fuse/C exchange is comparing two different things...
EX are primarily a currency, and only rarely used for crafting, thus they by and large don't get removed from the economy. Fuses are primarily a crafting item, and get used up in huge numbers.

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EzBreesy wrote:

How many of you guys have ever droped some exalts and how many of you exalts you have, i'm pretty confident you store 10-15 more exalt than what you have droped.

Because exalts are a currency you who's most likely generated by dev to control the economy of the game or boters.

Ex dropped: 0
Ex in stash: 1024.... jk, it's 0

My rng has been horrible this league. I guarantee my first ex will drop last day of league. I also have sold exactly 0 items, so I haven't generated any currency by trading... mainly because I haven't really gotten anything valuable enough to trade. But as a solo player, I'm pretty much used to that.

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Heli0nix wrote:

Ban currencie flippers ( agressive one ) in next league. You won't see exalt going higher than 30c.

( this is obviously not possible since the game economy design encourage players to flip ).

Ban people for not playing the game the way I want them to!

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Ban people for not playing the game the way I want them to!

You see that userbase shrink ? keep watching it's going to be worse and worse.

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Heli0nix wrote:

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Ban people for not playing the game the way I want them to!

You see that userbase shrink ? keep watching it's going to be worse and worse.

The user base is shrinking due to a lot of issues, not just the inflation (which was influenced mostly by GGG)

Can you please be realistic for one time and consider even with all these vendor recipes and third party way to trades maybe 10% of poe's community is able to produce currencies and trading ?

Most of new players don't even know how to make more than few chaos per days !
So when they see they are going to need 8ex that worth 70c each what they are going to do ? Be ultra courageous and trust third party + leaving work and wife to keep playing. Or leaving to something less hardcore ( and mostly with an hardcore content and not an hardcore trading simulation ).

And this shit is the result of years ignoring attractive and user friendly part of supposed core feature of path of exile named " TRADING ". Add to that RMT / group Flippers / Failed conception and you obtain on the long run an other dead free to play with 5k players left.

I helped all new players i was able to since domination league to learn how to trade etc ... i know only one who have keep going on that all others have just give up.
I've tried to bring some friends who was playing d2 with me they gave up and ended on d3.
Friendlist was full two weeks ago and now average of 6 players since sunday.
How would you call that ?

So add all these damn facts and yeah you obtain an userbase shrink and an impact who go more far than the league itself. It's on the game itself and i don't see anything that could change that with this economy.

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Heli0nix wrote:

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Ban people for not playing the game the way I want them to!

You see that userbase shrink ? keep watching it's going to be worse and worse.

The userbase of PoE is always growing, since closed beta days. Every major expansion release generates a bigger peak of population.
But yeah, between each expansion, between each challenge league start, the player base shrinks. It's the nature of this kind of games, most people don't play it months and months without breaks. They come back when a patch hits, when the ladder is reset, they play a few weeks, a few months, reach their own goals, and move on until the next time. It's the same thing in each arpg, it was already the same case in D2 online 15 years ago.

On topic: it's true that exalts price is higher this league than previous ones. Don't know exactly why, but I suppose it also has to do with the removal of eternal orbs, which might encourage players to yolo exalt more often instead of waiting to have a good number of eternals+exalts to craft, since it's no longer possible ? I suppose GGG is monitoring the usage of exalts now vs 1.3 so they should know if it's the case.

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Heli0nix wrote:

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Ban people for not playing the game the way I want them to!

You see that userbase shrink ? keep watching it's going to be worse and worse.

And then it will rise again. Welcome to PoE, I guess you are new.

Please prepare for more increased price of Exalted Orbs thanks to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3hht78/so_this_is_how_we_managed_to_accumulate_72_mirrors/

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wiwigvn wrote:

Please prepare for more increased price of Exalted Orbs thanks to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/3hht78/so_this_is_how_we_managed_to_accumulate_72_mirrors/

Well, the price for +3 gem items was wrong, and some players decided to abuse it :). A pity many PoE players dont understand crafting well, and pay for that...


I expected exalted prices go up, BTW. However, this does NOTHING to players who dont use pure exalteds for crafting. As exalted price (relatice to other currencies) go up, all prices listed in exalteds go down. Yes, players use exalteds for trading top items, but that doesnt mean they will get more expensive as exalteds do.


I also think, that exalted droprate ATM is too low, considering they can be use for master-crafting too, not just "yolo-exalt". And not just droprate, but also inability to farm pure exalteds somehow or convert other currencies for it. There should be a way to farm pure exalteds exclusive (for example, a zone with certain Divination Cards) or convert other currencies into it.