Please put block chance with shield on jewels back to 2%

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goetzjam wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

The most jewel slots I come across (but never unlock) seems to be just 2 on average. Yeah, I'm not wasting those slots just to get 2% additional block chance. The jewels aren't all that great to begin with.

You can get insane jewels.

The one still has a spot open for a suffix. Neither of them have %life (which rolls higher then most % life nodes on the tree) But they are both solid jewels and worth using for the right build.


As for others, yes blue jewels are underwhelming, but that is where your friend the regal orb comes in handy! The 3 property one was blue and I regaled one of the mods (dont remember).

Certain builds, like PA for example can get upwards of 30+% damage AND life from a jewel, not only is that awesome its one of the only ways that PA can scale from the passive tree, at least efficiently.


You can plan a build around getting upwards of 10, yes I said 10 jewels! Although 6-8 is more reasonable for a block build. You must not understand how incredibly powerful max block is, especially after the removal of cwdt\ec\ic\id nerfs. Physical damage must be dealt with, if your blocking 75% of the time, that is a huge amount of damage mitigation!

Nice examples of good jewels that would be worth getting a jewel socket. The problem is, you cannot plan a build around them until you already have them.

I my time so far I've found one or two useable rare jewels. The problem is, I'd have to create a new character to use them. Like yours, the jewels are "melee" jewels. The character that found them is a spell caster.

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Galtrovan wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

The most jewel slots I come across (but never unlock) seems to be just 2 on average. Yeah, I'm not wasting those slots just to get 2% additional block chance. The jewels aren't all that great to begin with.

You can get insane jewels.

The one still has a spot open for a suffix. Neither of them have %life (which rolls higher then most % life nodes on the tree) But they are both solid jewels and worth using for the right build.


As for others, yes blue jewels are underwhelming, but that is where your friend the regal orb comes in handy! The 3 property one was blue and I regaled one of the mods (dont remember).

Certain builds, like PA for example can get upwards of 30+% damage AND life from a jewel, not only is that awesome its one of the only ways that PA can scale from the passive tree, at least efficiently.


You can plan a build around getting upwards of 10, yes I said 10 jewels! Although 6-8 is more reasonable for a block build. You must not understand how incredibly powerful max block is, especially after the removal of cwdt\ec\ic\id nerfs. Physical damage must be dealt with, if your blocking 75% of the time, that is a huge amount of damage mitigation!

Nice examples of good jewels that would be worth getting a jewel socket. The problem is, you cannot plan a build around them until you already have them.

I my time so far I've found one or two useable rare jewels. The problem is, I'd have to create a new character to use them. Like yours, the jewels are "melee" jewels. The character that found them is a spell caster.

I simply listed the best jewels i've found. The 4 stat one dropped off normal malachai the first time I killed him, (back on day 1) I felt so rewarded having that jewel drop.

I probably have other spell caster ones I've sold or am hording for one reason or another. But you don't need 4 stat jewels to plan a build that can utilize them, just allocate the points elsewhere until you get a relevant one (or better yet buy one!)

The problem with 1% block with shields on a jewel is that you are giving up a passive point, which is HUGE no matter how you slice it, to gain something completely insignificant, even if paired up with something nice. Not only are you giving up the passive point and whatever you are giving up by taking it for the jewel, but you are giving up a prefix, and whatever nice things you could have had with that.

Just take a step back and think about it. You are giving up the OPPORTUNITY to do other much better things, for what... 1 freaking % block. Its almost ridiculous. I thought 2 was low personally, then they lower it to 1..

Even if you BUILD your entire toon to get many jewels (and thus using a very large amount of passives to do so and giving up all the things you could use those on) you get what, 6-7 jewel slots? So an _enormous_ investment in passives to gain you %6-7 shield block. Unbelievable.

Its a complete waste, and I'm sure this is why they did it. So you wouldn't waste your jewel on it. Pitty. Give us so many options, yet limit us with practicality.

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Shinare wrote:

The problem with 1% block with shields on a jewel is that you are giving up a passive point, which is HUGE no matter how you slice it
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Often it's more than a single passive point. The jewel nodes tend to be 2 or 3 passives of investment, so it's harder to justify just 1% block and only one other decent thing.

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goetzjam wrote:

The fact of the matter is they don't have to limit the amount of block on tree or jewels because the flask exists, thats just silly. Its a fairly rare flask (at least in temp leagues) and it alone requires sacrifices in order to keep 100% uptime.


If your point is that they somehow want to pigeon hole every block build into running 2 of these flask to sustain capped block, that is where I disagree with you, I don't think they want people achieving max block regardless of how they come up with it.

Thats not what im saying at all and i do agree with you they DO NOT want anyone just running max block on a build! Not without HUGE investment... Or run the flask! All im saying is theres 2 ways to go about a decent block build... The way you are saying with all he gear youve shown... same exact stuff i have to run except for the paw because im Reave, and path yourself a skilldrysill on the tree or.. Get the flask and take only a few block nodes and run medium block with capped block when you want/need it, invest the rest you would of had to otherwise put into more block on the tree and invest that in more damage!
And the flask is the way to go if you want to invest your nodes in something besides block on the tree!

Then you could also on a build where you have almost maxed out block with all that gear you just showed, go as far as to take Acro/Phase and still be able to cap block out with the flask! Thats why im saying the Flask has a bit to do with Block being so rare on everything like it is! They DEFINITELY dont want people running maxed out block with Acro for sure! Thats all im saying!

And I agree that it should be a huge investment to max shield block. But the almost nothing %1 you gain on a jewel does in no way equal the opportunity cost you are spending on it. Like I said before, even 2% was small in my opinion.

I just looked at my tree. I currently have 5 jewel sockets. I will be in my 90's by the time I will get another. And will be close to 100 when I get the last one. (currently level 77)

7% for using ALL MY JEWEL SLOTS at level 100 on a build built around getting those slots for block. I mean, seriously... a freaking shield can roll +%6 block.

Edit: Sorry, added this content to the OP in case people don't read past the OP.