Thanks to the graphical update in Act 4, my Diablo 3 friends are switching over to POE

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miljan wrote:
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Nighus wrote:


If this game has turned into paying to play, which seems to be the case now, they must do whatever they can to ensure top quality stuff. If I have to pay to get beta access, then I want desynch gone and graphical attributes greatly increased. PoE doesn't have any excuses like being free to play from now on because it's NOT free to play anymore.

I dont know what you are talking about, but the game is still free to play and will be like that with act 4.
If you talking about pay to test the game than that has nothing to do with pay to play as everything will be wiped several times in beta and act 4 when finished will also be free for everyone.

Free to play is a colossal lie made up by RMTers. This game costs a lot more than most of its pay to play counterparts in the market.
Forget it ;)
The Sirus fight is a disgrace.
Last edited by ghamadvar#7236 on May 6, 2015, 3:20:05 PM
Never been a crazy fan of graphics. I always put my graphics on the lowest, except for the resolution, I keep it on average. That helps for the better performance, especially when I play coc builds, or discharge, etc.
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Nighus wrote:
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miljan wrote:
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Nighus wrote:


If this game has turned into paying to play, which seems to be the case now, they must do whatever they can to ensure top quality stuff. If I have to pay to get beta access, then I want desynch gone and graphical attributes greatly increased. PoE doesn't have any excuses like being free to play from now on because it's NOT free to play anymore.

I dont know what you are talking about, but the game is still free to play and will be like that with act 4.
If you talking about pay to test the game than that has nothing to do with pay to play as everything will be wiped several times in beta and act 4 when finished will also be free for everyone.

Free to play is a colossal lie made up by RMTers. This game costs a lot more than most of its pay to play counterparts in the market.


They win more money then any other ARPG out there.
98% of the user base is buying non stop stash tabs.
Money comes from there non stop.
I have 31 tabs and i'm out of space.
That costed way more than a P2P ARPG out there.
Then there are the cosmetics.
Then the packs.
Warframe is another good example.
Last edited by crashbashl#0913 on May 6, 2015, 3:48:47 PM
I've always the liked the graphics and they definitely keep getting better
R.I.P. my beloved P.o.E.
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CommodoX wrote:
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antnee wrote:

If you think that's even remotely feasible, then you have no idea what you're talking about.

Of course it's feasible. It's a matter of resources (money + manpower), not a matter of "OMG CAN'T DO IT".

So, exactly how much money and resources do you think this would cost?

Oh, what was that? More money than GGG could ever hope to spend on such a project? Making it... not feasible?

It is NOT a matter of "New engine, just cut and paste the old models!" Seriously, there are levels of complexity there that you clearly aren't grasping. Hence, you have no freaking clue what you're talking about.

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CommodoX wrote:

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Antnee wrote:
Setting aside any graphical quality issues, the look and feel of POE is unique, and I greatly prefer it to giant shoulderpads and big cartooney circlemonsters.


So you asume every graphic design other than PoE = Diablo 3?
Are you mentally challenged? Serious question.

I'm sorry, were we not directly talking about Diablo 3? Did I miss something here, or are you injecting your own thoughts as if I can hear them?

Must be my mentally challenged state. My bad.


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Last edited by Antnee#4468 on May 6, 2015, 6:05:01 PM
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The biggest issue with me was the graphics in POE it just looked like a 2001 game and I would not even give it a second of my time.


This view point triggers irrational rage in me. The graphics do everything they need to convey the gameplay. Needing more is just so obnoxious to me.
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PoofGoof wrote:
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In my mind, graphically, PoE was always superior to D3. If only for that artistically driven sensibility and effect by determining environment.



The problem with such statements is that graphical just means "Art" in those cases. Real "graphically" (read: NOT the art) though D3 is superior in every way; animations, performance, particle system, textures.

Just make a simple test and compare startup animations of spells and attacks. Click some yt videos of animation sets. While GGG has more skills available they use the same 3-5 basic animations for AAAAALL those skill since closed beta. D3 offers here a unique cast/attack animation for nearly every skill.

The problem here is self constructed since i remember them saying their animation tool and implementation of new animations needs a huge workload so i think they focus on things like new monster animation and stuff for new acts.

But man, i would wish we would get a poe animation 2.0 ^^
What can never be lent or earned?
Somewhat, that devours everyone and everything:
A tree that rush. A bird that sings. It eat bones and smite the hardest stones.
Masticate every sword. Shatters every shrine. It defeat mighty kings and carry mountains on lightly wings.
What am i?
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Spysong192 wrote:
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PoofGoof wrote:
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In my mind, graphically, PoE was always superior to D3. If only for that artistically driven sensibility and effect by determining environment.



The problem with such statements is that graphical just means "Art" in those cases. Real "graphically" (read: NOT the art) though D3 is superior in every way; animations, performance, particle system, textures.

Just make a simple test and compare startup animations of spells and attacks. Click some yt videos of animation sets. While GGG has more skills available they use the same 3-5 basic animations for AAAAALL those skill since closed beta. D3 offers here a unique cast/attack animation for nearly every skill.

The problem here is self constructed since i remember them saying their animation tool and implementation of new animations needs a huge workload so i think they focus on things like new monster animation and stuff for new acts.

But man, i would wish we would get a poe animation 2.0 ^^


This.

POE has a far superior art direction but, technically, comparing POE's graphics, and especially animations, with D3's is like comparing catapults with artillery.
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Antnee wrote:
So, exactly how much money and resources do you think this would cost?

Oh, what was that? More money than GGG could ever hope to spend on such a project? Making it... not feasible?

It is NOT a matter of "New engine, just cut and paste the old models!" Seriously, there are levels of complexity there that you clearly aren't grasping. Hence, you have no freaking clue what you're talking about.

I worked with 3D modeling and graphic design and it is feasible. The question is the ROI and I think the money invested in better graphics doesn't get them that much money back. Instead letting the designer work on macro payment stuff gets a neat cashflow. And of course you block your graphic team for a long time when they hav to overhaul the game = much less mtx in the shops = bad.
But they do have to get every act on the same level of graphic detail and texture quality in the future, otherwise it will look like shit when act 4 is super shiny but the rest isn't.

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CommodoX wrote:
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Antnee wrote:

Setting aside any graphical quality issues, the look and feel of POE is unique, and I greatly prefer it to giant shoulderpads and big cartooney circlemonsters.


So you asume every graphic design other than PoE = Diablo 3?
Are you mentally challenged? Serious question.

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Antnee wrote:
I'm sorry, were we not directly talking about Diablo 3?

No. Maybe you mistake me with somebody else.I just wrote about the general PoE graphic design, no Diablo 3 involved.
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