Incandescent Heart Only Works with CI... Why Life?

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Tempada wrote:

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BearCares wrote:

If you take mind over matter won't part of the converted elemental damage you take get taken as damage to mana? This involves a trip down to the duelist area though

Yes. Since non-chaos damage is applied to energy shield before life and damage that would be deducted from life is first applied to mana with MoM, you'd be taking that passive only to reduce the converted chaos damage, which is probably not worth the point investment.

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Nithryok wrote:

I did this build and last season and the character is still alive and was doing 75 maps easy mode and only using a 5l and farming ubers. You could even take the build further and use aegis with amazing gear and get some block 40-50% is fine and you become a brick shit house.

Thanks for the info. And this is more effective than going CI (to take advantage of elemental damage reduction) + Zealot's Oath?

I haven't done the math to figure out if it's more effective per say but you could reach 6-7k armor, gearing arm/es gives you armor vs small phys hits to not be noticeable, you will take more ele damage than if you were CI since you're not at 100% chaos res, BUT you are playing out of 2 life pools so you notice the hit less. Overall I would say it's more effective once you factor in gear choice's with armor.

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DnAngel wrote:

@JahIthBer89 that is not true. The effect is always the same: 25% less damage, no diminishing returns at all.

Max resists scale exponentially. 1 max res from 98 to 99 reduces the damage in half, whereas from 0 to 1 it only reduces the damage by 1%. So yes, it means less max res, but those max res have more effect and the reduction ends up being the same.

Right.... but 25% of a lesser number (less damage taken before IH is taken into account because of higher max res) results in less raw damage mitigated from IH alone.

Imagine a 1,000 damage flameblast.

With 75% fire res and no IH: 250 damage

With 85% fire res and no IH: 150 damage

With 75% and wearing IH: 187.5 damage

With 85% and IH: 112.5 damage.

That's 62.5 damage mitigated from IH ALONE versus 37.5 damage mitigated from IH ALONE, a 66% decrease in effectiveness.


I only convert the numbers to "effective max res" to make it easier to understand the mitigation at a glimpse, it isn't actually maximum resistance so the exponential nature of resistances is irrelevant to the math involving this item. At the end of the day, Incandescent heart still mitigates more raw damage by itself the less resistance you have.

Just to throw a monkey wrench in y'alls equations, pun intended, since I use this armor on my CI Scion.. Calculate the damage taken from physical while using Chernobog's Pillar with it ;)

Edit: going through these posts, I haven't seen blood magic mentioned; as to the OP's question as to why life..(?)

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JahIthBer89 wrote:

At the end of the day, Incandescent heart still mitigates more raw damage by itself the less resistance you have.

So.... Immortal Flesh + ZO?