Stringing on the Kickstarter customer, or Why this game needs to die

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davidnn5 wrote:
If you record a video of yourself making an acceptance speech of your award for killing a monster to a crowd of computers, I will believe.
A "thank you RNGesus" thread is an acceptance speech.
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
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davidnn5 wrote:
If you record a video of yourself making an acceptance speech of your award for killing a monster to a crowd of computers, I will believe.
A "thank you RNGesus" thread is an acceptance speech.


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Last edited by TheWretch on Mar 3, 2015, 7:11:48 PM
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davidnn5 wrote:
I'll say it again CanHas - a game with competitive aspects is not necessarily a competitive game. Evolve is intrinsically competitive because you can't play the game without fighting another player to win. PoE is *not* intrinsically competitive because there is the option to not compete with anyone for anything.

So while GGG may tune everything in the game around an expectation of people competing, it's not remotely surprising that there's a reasonable population of people who don't generally compete and who have, surprise, views on the game.

Of course, there is the obligatory need to comment on the drive to make something intrinsic to the game (trade) without actually building in good tools for it. Consider that topic covered ;)

Edit: If my Evolve comparison is off-base forgive me; I haven't played it yet and don't know if it can be played single player. Still, the point is fairly clear hopefully.


Even if you chose not to ever trade (putting yourself at a massive handicap) and not to ever play with anyone else, you're still living in a game balanced around characters that have traded and play in groups.

Furthermore, at the risk of turning this into a desync thread, the very existence of desync and how the players are forced to deal with it, even in single player, is the most resounding demonstration of how POE has committed to multiplayer and competitiveness and completely shits on the individual. Or look at the map drop system.

TLDR if you're playing POE solo you're playing at a significant handicap whether you want to or not. That's not a choice we make when we play POE, it's one GGG designed for us.
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On the other hand, if you make full use of group play there is practically no challenge left. One could say it stops being a game then because of a severe lack of fail states. All that is left is competing with others when it comes to dps etc.
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Jojas wrote:
On the other hand, if you make full use of group play there is practically no challenge left. One could say it stops being a game then because of a severe lack of fail states. All that is left is competing with others when it comes to dps etc.


Huh? The reason I hate playing in groups is that it's an absolute cluster fuck. It's hard to tell what's going on at any time, if the group isn't well coordinated people go which ever direction, the pain of figuring out who's curse to use. The mess of attempting hard bosses, which depend on visual cues that you might miss because of skill spam. God bless you if you're playing melee, having to go at blistering rate to feel remotely relevant while at much higher risk because you do it. Then when everyone piles on you can't see yourself in the sea of skill spam.

A well organized group of people who know how to play together will be the most successful. An average group, it's a toss up if all the advantages make up for the uncoordinated mess it usually ends up being.
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Moosifer wrote:
A well organized group of people who know how to play together will be the most successful. An average group, it's a toss up if all the advantages make up for the uncoordinated mess it usually ends up being.


That's what I meant with "full use of group play". I really wasn't clear enough there.

But my point is, if GGG designed PoE for groups they must think we're all morons. Because - considering that balance should be made with the best possible play in mind - in Poe the best possible group would cakewalk more or less everything.
So I don't think they did. I think that they try to balance both for groups and solo players, but lean heavily towards solo play because that's where the challenges are.

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