General Discussion - Kickstarter Campaign for PoE's Optional Self Found League! - Forum

" iamstryker wrote: " DirkAustin wrote: " iamstryker wrote: You can do things that the game steers you towards doing that aren't really fun but you feel compelled to do because it gets you to things that are fun. Um, what? I really thought what I wrote was very easy to read but I'll try again and spell it out as clearly as possible. You told him to quit because he mentioned that he wasn't having fun and in your opinion if your not having fun you need to simply leave and stop complaining. Fair enough except that he didn't say that he wasn't having ANY fun, he was talking about things like trading that he doesn't have much fun doing anymore but of course he does it because that's the way the game is designed. He does it to get ahead and get to the fun stuff like exceptional gear that he wants. So he like the OP are pointing out improvements that they would like to see done. Games aren't usually fun 100% of the time that your playing. Telling someone to quit because they are experiencing issues with the game and providing feedback is wrong and unfair. Then you didnt understand me. I dont play games when they stop being fun, why do other people do that? There is nothing wrong with leaving a game unplayed for a while and playing something else in the meantime and coming back some other time when its fun again. You think i play POE everyday all my life? Lol, nope, i play Smite, stanley parable, D2, D3 and some pvp in WC3. Do i play POE again? Of course, but not all the time, rotating games is a must.	Posted by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015, 3:11:11 PM
Of course its about the droprates, I would like to play a fresh league myself with higher drops aswell. Now I am not playing any league at all thanks to this.	Posted by MegaTen_IV#3375 on Jan 10, 2015, 3:22:28 PM Quote this Post
starting a KS to bribe a developer into adding a feature you want in their game? that's a first Don't forget to drink your milk 👌	Posted by TheWretch#7848 on Jan 10, 2015, 3:24:12 PM Quote this Post
" TheWretch wrote: starting a KS to bribe a developer into adding a feature you want in their game? that's a first Thats P2W if they get the SFL!^^	Posted by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015, 3:25:19 PM
i can throw 1-5k$ on SFL, ive spent similar cash on other kickstarter projects however.. first - ggg promised us LONG TIME AGO paid leagues. was that a lie? or were they afraid that people would design SFL and suddenly most of the playerbase would go there not really willing to longer engage in the econo-meh? second - i do not trust that my money would be spent ENTIRELY on SFL. i no longer have confidence nor trust in design direction for this game. it was to be hardcore ARPG. what we have is EZPZy RMT-riddled trading sim. nothing hardcore about it (Except the skill/luck to avoid BS desync/freeze deaths and incredible time waste required to reach 100). so you have my vote, but until ggg proves they are willing to make good on their past promises (or explain why they've broken these - paid leagues) ill keep spending my money elsewhere. the last thing i want is to support their trade-centric, 'overpower bs is good', 'we do not really care about RMT yet do A LOT to make it profitable' direction of nowadays.	Posted by sidtherat#1310 on Jan 10, 2015, 3:45:22 PM Quote this Post
I don't really agree with most of what OP said, and kickstarter gets abused enough as it is, but I've been growing fonder of some kind of SFL for a while now. The growing amount of cheating and RMTing that's happening, along with the massive benefit of being a streamer, at this point has made most accomplishments in this game a joke. I just cant be impressed when a streamer who cheats without being punished gets first in something, or when known RMTers get a tshirt for first 50 8/8. If after 1.4 was patched up, GGG started setting up the player payed leagues idea they talked about ages ago, I would definitely be interested in a legit SFL where accomplishments would be respectable, but outside of doing it that way, I'm not sure it makes sense for GGG to just do it on their own along with the other challenge leagues. I just don't see enough people in this community caring about respectable competition. I don't know if its just because so many have chosen to be ignorant about whats going on or not, but its really just disappointing at this point.	Posted by Magnicon#6598 on Jan 10, 2015, 3:52:36 PM Quote this Post
" sidtherat wrote: i can throw 1-5k$ on SFL, ive spent similar cash on other kickstarter projects however.. first - ggg promised us LONG TIME AGO paid leagues. was that a lie? or were they afraid that people would design SFL and suddenly most of the playerbase would go there not really willing to longer engage in the econo-meh? second - i do not trust that my money would be spent ENTIRELY on SFL. i no longer have confidence nor trust in design direction for this game. it was to be hardcore ARPG. what we have is EZPZy RMT-riddled trading sim. nothing hardcore about it (Except the skill/luck to avoid BS desync/freeze deaths and incredible time waste required to reach 100). so you have my vote, but until ggg proves they are willing to make good on their past promises (or explain why they've broken these - paid leagues) ill keep spending my money elsewhere. the last thing i want is to support their trade-centric, 'overpower bs is good', 'we do not really care about RMT yet do A LOT to make it profitable' direction of nowadays. First of all, why call it a lie just because its not part of the game yet? Secondly, who says that SFL would be possible with paid leagues? Paid leagues might not even go on for more than a few weeks to a few month. I doubt they would make a permanent paid league.	Posted by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015, 3:57:01 PM
As much as I'd love a self-found league, I'm torn about having to pay for it. HC players didn't have to pay extra for HC leagues. PvP players didn't have to pay extra for PvP ladder/events. Permanent allocation proponents didn't have to pay extra for it. And I STILL shake my head at "increased drop rate SFL is making the game easier." TRADE makes the game easier, even easier than SF/increased drop rates. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give moar Power Creep Pls	Posted by Druga1757#1370 on Jan 10, 2015, 4:13:29 PM Quote this Post
KS, I dont know about that. I would like SFL though. Becuase trade is a pita. More lenient linking and chroming. Better drops (more currency, better rolling of mods). Yes please. The Hyperbomber for 2.6: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1879383	Posted by Saltygames#3498 on Jan 10, 2015, 4:22:12 PM Quote this Post
" Druga1757 wrote: And I STILL shake my head at "increased drop rate SFL is making the game easier." TRADE makes the game easier, even easier than SF/increased drop rates. Trade and poe.zyx is what makes the game easy not the increased drop rates... it's the very same like the D3 auction house was, and only an idiot will say that its not true. The droprates sucks and so are the current leagues. This game went from almost perfect to mediocre in 2 years.	Posted by MegaTen_IV#3375 on Jan 10, 2015, 4:22:41 PM Quote this Post