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lolozori wrote:
well, if GGG would be kind to implement a particle FX option in their ingame option, people could play with nice graphic while shutting down those lag inducing rain/smoke/spells effects. In the game state right now, you need high-end graphic card to play it.
Well, yes and no.
You can get away with a lot with lower end stuff, it's just massively restricting to party play.
Besides, baseline graphics settings still have to deal with particle lag.
Imo it's more about loading the tile sets. Everything has minute detail and axing that out is what really wins it over for people.
Not to say a way to remove particle graphics isn't warranted. Rain is notorious for what it does to computers, but still...
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Posted byPoofGoof#3481on Nov 4, 2014, 3:04:41 AM
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lolozori wrote:
well, if GGG would be kind to implement a particle FX option in their ingame option, people could play with nice graphic while shutting down those lag inducing rain/smoke/spells effects. In the game state right now, you need high-end graphic card to play it.
I suspect GGG don t do it simply because their engine is kind of bad and the programmer they have would need months to find a way to do it.
You are aware that hackers made tools that limit particle amount to their preference or turn it off completely ??
If hackers can do that with their external tool in a game where developers did their best to prevent it, I really doubt developers lack the capability to do it with their internal tools.
Do not be fooled, it is not a technical limitation or even an engine limitation. It is purely GGG's decision on not doing it for the sake of screenshots.
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Posted bysymban#2593on Nov 4, 2014, 3:18:50 AM
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lolozori wrote:
well, if GGG would be kind to implement a particle FX option in their ingame option, people could play with nice graphic while shutting down those lag inducing rain/smoke/spells effects. In the game state right now, you need high-end graphic card to play it.
I suspect GGG don t do it simply because their engine is kind of bad and the programmer they have would need months to find a way to do it.
More or less this.
The fact that racer-streamers strip down graphics to the bare minimum to not be bothered by FPS issues, shows how badly optimized the engine is (streamers usually have high-end computers).
Not even a $2k desktop will guarantee you a smooth gameplay in a 6 man Coc/Mjoler/Discharge party.
GGG could try to rewrite / fix / optimize their engine, or give some kind of setting to limit particle effects. Guess which is cheaper / takes less work to do?
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Posted bymorbo#1824on Nov 4, 2014, 3:44:32 AM
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If the game didn't handle like ass, nobody would have to. But it does, so we do.
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Posted byHyskoa#4601on Nov 4, 2014, 3:46:50 AM
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morbo wrote:
The fact that racer-streamers strip down graphics to the bare minimum to not be bothered by FPS issues, shows how badly optimized the engine is (streamers usually have high-end computers).
Eh. No game is perfectly optimized for every computer. High-tier ladder players in SC2, Dota, LoL, every game turn down their graphics settings to get the maximum performance. if you want high performance in a game, turn down the graphics. Is just how it is.
You want perfect optimization for a game for every computer? start by talking to a billion-dollar company like blizz for sc2 or activision for cod. Once they start doing it, poe will too.
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Posted byAfroComrade#1050on Nov 4, 2014, 3:51:36 AM
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morbo wrote:
The fact that racer-streamers strip down graphics to the bare minimum to not be bothered by FPS issues, shows how badly optimized the engine is (streamers usually have high-end computers).
Eh. No game is perfectly optimized for every computer. High-tier ladder players in SC2, Dota, LoL, every game turn down their graphics settings to get the maximum performance. if you want high performance in a game, turn down the graphics. Is just how it is.
You want perfect optimization for a game for every computer? start by talking to a billion-dollar company like blizz for sc2 or activision for cod. Once they start doing it, poe will too.
The difference is that other games DO give the option the turn graphics down. GGG refuse the give the option for limiting particles, or turning off environmental effects.
Like you said it is just how it is. And PoE is not like that.
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Posted bysymban#2593on Nov 4, 2014, 3:58:03 AM
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morbo wrote:
The fact that racer-streamers strip down graphics to the bare minimum to not be bothered by FPS issues, shows how badly optimized the engine is (streamers usually have high-end computers).
Eh. No game is perfectly optimized for every computer. High-tier ladder players in SC2, Dota, LoL, every game turn down their graphics settings to get the maximum performance. if you want high performance in a game, turn down the graphics. Is just how it is.
You want perfect optimization for a game for every computer? start by talking to a billion-dollar company like blizz for sc2 or activision for cod. Once they start doing it, poe will too.
This is a strawman.
No one asks for "perfect optimization for every computer". What is being argued for are low-hanging-fruit, industry standard settings that provide better performance at higher levels of graphical fidelity compared to what people have to put up with now.
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Posted bywordling#2814on Nov 4, 2014, 4:05:11 AM
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morbo wrote:
The fact that racer-streamers strip down graphics to the bare minimum to not be bothered by FPS issues, shows how badly optimized the engine is (streamers usually have high-end computers).
Eh. No game is perfectly optimized for every computer. High-tier ladder players in SC2, Dota, LoL, every game turn down their graphics settings to get the maximum performance. if you want high performance in a game, turn down the graphics. Is just how it is.
You want perfect optimization for a game for every computer? start by talking to a billion-dollar company like blizz for sc2 or activision for cod. Once they start doing it, poe will too.
The difference is that other games DO give the option the turn graphics down. GGG refuse the give the option for limiting particles, or turning off environmental effects.
Like you said it is just how it is. And PoE is not like that.
Sure, however we can't really speculate as to why. Why have other games done it but PoE hasn't? I dunno, but they've implemented other things people have asked for. if they haven't done this one, it's likely for a good reason.
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Posted byAfroComrade#1050on Nov 4, 2014, 4:06:14 AM
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Is that below the lowest in-game setting?
I'm big into pixel art games right now (Crawl is fucking amazing), so I'm not going to say that graphics are everything, but I do believe in trying to keep the game as visually close to the designers' intention as possible.
And somehow I don't see Erik and co digging that screenshot.
you lower the texture from the ini file
my game looks something like that too... my PC just cant Handel it on high graphics, it keeps crashing my client or giving me BSOD
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Posted byVictorDoom#6290on Nov 4, 2014, 4:13:09 AM
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wordling wrote:
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morbo wrote:
The fact that racer-streamers strip down graphics to the bare minimum to not be bothered by FPS issues, shows how badly optimized the engine is (streamers usually have high-end computers).
Eh. No game is perfectly optimized for every computer. High-tier ladder players in SC2, Dota, LoL, every game turn down their graphics settings to get the maximum performance. if you want high performance in a game, turn down the graphics. Is just how it is.
You want perfect optimization for a game for every computer? start by talking to a billion-dollar company like blizz for sc2 or activision for cod. Once they start doing it, poe will too.
This is a strawman.
No one asks for "perfect optimization for every computer". What is being argued for are low-hanging-fruit, industry standard settings that provide better performance at higher levels of graphical fidelity compared to what people have to put up with now.
Allowing you to turn off more settings isn't optimization ;v
It's giving you more setting options (which allow you to play better on your toaster), no matter how much they optimize it your toaster is still a toaster.
If your talking about optimizing graphics at high levels then that's a different problem.
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