2.3 Fakener (budget fake Mjölner) build - Trickster Version

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Chickenlal wrote:
Why don't I see anyone using a vagan dagger in this thread? Is it because of reflect or something else I'm missing?


Hard to get the right rolls. You want atk spd and crit but its hard to aug on either one of them on your first try. So basically, you can, if you're willing to either spend a few exalts or wait for a few months to craft it yourself.
Last edited by orangbo#6678 on Feb 26, 2015, 7:44:30 PM
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ShotgunHeavy wrote:
currently at level 76, and i feel really inconsistent in maps, one moment destroying a pack/rare/unique, then just feeling like i'm doing nothing at all and having trouble surviving. here's what i have currently, any help would be appreciated.

gear:
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skill tree:
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https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYAl5dFfOUZtDj79Yw2JpVh4lVLFr8Pq1M1ykrDOpu1dweHE5ykb57A40tX8bN-M6SRE55d8hGWDkiQG5oTcFbb1HBSidNw1dQjBbXo1iLqfyswfFFHjb_Wik2SI_aNfaxHUUx9W0rIPycqTSo4qW618m6qOuGmV03j_o81kv4K8kXYvbc-mK0o-oLH-ehBh3KpxPY8Lcaukn33Mphv3CPlz8AaWfOsqpBVGjgnL-w4gpvtIKIA4XMEsw==


craft a crit roll on that dagger or hand it to me and I can do it for you
Last edited by orangbo#6678 on Feb 26, 2015, 7:54:07 PM
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orangbo wrote:
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ShotgunHeavy wrote:
currently at level 76, and i feel really inconsistent in maps, one moment destroying a pack/rare/unique, then just feeling like i'm doing nothing at all and having trouble surviving. here's what i have currently, any help would be appreciated.

gear:
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skill tree:
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https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYAl5dFfOUZtDj79Yw2JpVh4lVLFr8Pq1M1ykrDOpu1dweHE5ykb57A40tX8bN-M6SRE55d8hGWDkiQG5oTcFbb1HBSidNw1dQjBbXo1iLqfyswfFFHjb_Wik2SI_aNfaxHUUx9W0rIPycqTSo4qW618m6qOuGmV03j_o81kv4K8kXYvbc-mK0o-oLH-ehBh3KpxPY8Lcaukn33Mphv3CPlz8AaWfOsqpBVGjgnL-w4gpvtIKIA4XMEsw==


craft a crit roll on that dagger or hand it to me and I can do it for you


regular crit chance i presume? also, i'm standard right now, btw.

also, i have some other daggers in my stash i've been experimenting with.



i feel this one might good if it had an attack speed roll on it, or could get a good attack speed roll crafted on.
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Chickenlal wrote:
Level 60 now and I'm really having trouble with single target. I only have 3K life and it's not enough to sustain the casting from cyclone when there aren't big packs. I have tried life on hit, but it's also not that effective.

Big packs are really easy, whirlwind trough and everything is dead. But if there's a big rare left over by himself I just skip him lol.


This build is really low on the life side, I hope it's gonna be ok since I'm on bloodlines. I'm used to having over 3k life when I enter merciless and now I'm almost in maps lol :p

Tree
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABbUPqxOeFr8aOCLqI_YmlScvKk0wfDWSOuE8LT8nRXxKyEtXTZJN41FHUUxTNVVLWfNd8mHibqpvnnBScNVyqXcHfVt-M38rgwmHE4nTjDaNfY2_kFWSfZeXmG-btZykpJGmV6xHrKq0OLXytz7AGsDjwzrEFcT2xq7KStQj1orYvdwj5Rnlz-jW7Djxs_JF9zL79f4K_o8=


Gear (Didnt invest a lot of currency into gear yet except for helm/belt/shield, rest comes from my stash.
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edit: I think I'm gonna skip the 5 nodes at the Celestial wheel and spend them in the life/flask nodes at Profane Chemistry. The damage should be good enough and for hardcore I prefere more life. And probaly also skip the increased AOE at templar and take Written in Blood next to the crit nodes top right.

Or should I go for purity of flesh? 6 nodes for 20% life/20% chaos res.

So something like this for 182% life instead of 140%:
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https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgYA5Rm0OPv1l5dFfIw2pJETnl3yfjMOSJAbEZaaE3BW29RwUonTcNVjQyaVYeJVS5u1UzUPqxa_1CMFtejWIurWin8rMHxRR42__94k_edUdweHE5ykb57KSsM6gwmsR1FMfVsqOKlutfJuqkrIPycqTdi9NZL-CsaeEH8MfYLH-ehBh7c-mK0o-vcycqnE9jwtxq6SfdwjmG_lz6IA8B8Es8Bm4XPsOIKb7SCFfSlPkFUnLxo4TeP-jzrh8kVNkiP2jX2mV8DjS1fxs6yqWfPAGklR8NWVLgcepDnQgUfiIuIVIA==



edit 2:

Just crafted this for a couple of chaos, should help me a lot for now:



Why don't I see anyone using a vagan dagger in this thread? Is it because of reflect or something else I'm missing?


All you need is that dagger. I did Uber @ 88 with it. reg atziri at 75. And you dont need any accuracy on gear or tree which means more DPS parts so it may even be superior in long run. Like rings can have double crit. Can wear Maligaros, can spec more DPS in tree etc.
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chest swap gems


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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABLMFtQceDkgPqxGWE54Wvxo4Iuoj9iT9JpUnLylPKjgqTS3SMHEwfDWSOkI62DwtPydFfEbXSVFKyEtXS3hNklFHUUxTNVVLVylZ813yXkVh4mNDbqpvnnBScFZw1XGFcql3B31bfjN_K4KbgwmFfYcTidOMNo19jb-QG5BVkn2S85Uul5eYb5oTm7WcpJ_fogCkkalurEesqrFCtDi18rc-wBrAZsDjwzrE9sauykrUI9aK2L3b1Nwj3ajhc-UZ5c_nVOjW7DjtIO988NXxs_MR9zL66_v1_gr_3g==


I use a mix of Mathils' and Doeboys builds with my own twists to suit me.
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1195956/page/1

If concerned about more defenses for bloodlines I recommend doeboys tree because it sports 13,000 evasion so like 35%, 46% spell dodge and 40% chance to dodge etc. Also spec in all your life. More than one way to skin a cat - just build to suit you. CoC is so powerful so many options are fine.




Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Feb 27, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
Two things worth noting:

Take out blood magic, take out life leech. Replace them with a single gem:
+Warlord's mark

Second, if like me you hate elemental equilibrium, it's better to go lightning penetration than increased critical damage gem.

I would ideally run:
g cyclone
g coc
b discharge
b lightning pen
b increased aoe
r warlord's mark (6L) or scrap it and go Mjolner

Atm I only have 5L, and 6L is way out of my price range, so looking at doing this without warlord's mark, without mana leech, without blood magic. Not sure how I'm going to go about it, perhaps -# mana rings? Anyone know which crafting bench to use for that? I have lvl8 Elreon and I believe all the crafting benches already placed in my hideout, yet can't seem to find the right bench.
Player since closed beta 2012. Full system specs: https://pastebin.com/c4rvbvSR
'Tongueslurp the Unspeakable' - skeleton archer in Fellshrine Merciless
Last edited by Zedda#0815 on Feb 28, 2015, 5:01:01 AM
I would love to share my build items but I have no idea how to do that O_O
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Zedda wrote:
Two things worth noting:

Take out blood magic, take out life leech. Replace them with a single gem:
+Warlord's mark

Second, if like me you hate elemental equilibrium, it's better to go lightning penetration than increased critical damage gem.

I would ideally run:
g cyclone
g coc
b discharge
b lightning pen
b increased aoe
r warlord's mark (6L) or scrap it and go Mjolner

Atm I only have 5L, and 6L is way out of my price range, so looking at doing this without warlord's mark, without mana leech, without blood magic. Not sure how I'm going to go about it, perhaps -# mana rings? Anyone know which crafting bench to use for that? I have lvl8 Elreon and I believe all the crafting benches already placed in my hideout, yet can't seem to find the right bench.


How do you cast first spell, warlord or even one cyclone without BM? This spec only has like 5 mana to spare.

Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on Feb 28, 2015, 11:30:18 AM
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Wanred wrote:
I would love to share my build items but I have no idea how to do that O_O


Go to profile while reply and shift l-click
Git R Dun!
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Aim_Deep wrote:
How do you cast first spell, warlord or even one cyclone without BM? This spec only has like 5 mana to spare.


What aura's are you running? I'm running lvl 3 clarity on blood magic gem, that's it. My mana pool is full, I have 100% usage of my mana.

I'm considering using Grace or Discipline/Eldritch-battery but I'm not sure if Eldritch-battery applies before or after Voll's Devotion 50% mana reduction. Grace will give me more defenses, but would require me to use 2 of those -mana Elreon rings (which I still can't find btw) whereas Discipline/EB will probably provide sufficient mana pool so that the mana regen is enough to support cyclone.

My issue with blood magic gem on cyclone for this build is this. You're forced into using these gems:
g cyclone
g coc
r blood magic
r life leech
b discharge

So no lightning pen. No increased AoE or concentrated effect. Unless you've got a 6L voll's (which is 99.9% impossible for me) you cannot run either of the above, let alone two of them.

Running your cyclone on mana does present some issues, but I've found that you can to a large extend deal with both life and mana leech with a single gem (CoC Warlord's mark). The only major issue are curse immune reflect packs. Just check the rare in the reflect pack, if he's curse immune, either swap out a gem for life leech, or avoid the pack.
Player since closed beta 2012. Full system specs: https://pastebin.com/c4rvbvSR
'Tongueslurp the Unspeakable' - skeleton archer in Fellshrine Merciless
Can you tell me how you got 4.1 attack speed,i dont understand that! I got only 2.2 when i put another dagger who give me 19attack speed.I am lvl 88
Here is my items :
Last edited by dika91#3982 on Feb 28, 2015, 6:11:19 PM

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