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They should be back up in approximately .Forsaken Craft: You've sort of broken your game GGG
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" Okay, so why are you still here then? " Yes, someone else's mirrored gear makes the game magically less fun. You guys can't possibly be older than 17. Team Won
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" To play a game that does not require me to cheat or no life to enjoy, game discussion. IGN: Arlianth Check out my LA build: 1782214 Last edited by Nephalim#2731 on Sep 21, 2014, 3:15:26 PM
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" Just in case you missed it. It's the master crafting that allows the now perfect (or near, nearer than ever) divined items. They use the master meta mods so that divining is done in 2 separate stages. So much easier to get 3 mods perfectly divined, followed by 2 mods perfectly divined and ultimately eternal exalting the last mod as a perfect roll; than it is to stars-align-divine 6 mods at once. The master meta mods are also used to remove mods from the pool at the rolling process. The whole process became easier and cheaper, as well as being more realistic in the perfect end result rather than the almost perfect end result. While I'm in no way accusing Jake here of RMT, I hope for 1 minute he doesn't think that, but as to the point you made, Nephalim, one end master crafting allows high tier and the other RMT brute forces near perfect; no, legitimate players can now use master crafting to create absolute perfect items, as can RMT, easier than before. Casually casual.
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I was being a bit of a douche by insinuating that you shouldn't post on the forums, but I just don't see how 1-million town dps with him popping all kinds of flasks and wearing literally perfect gear ruins the fun.
You don't have to cheat. The most DPS I've ever done was 18k on my Facebreaker Cyclone guy. But I rip through maps with even 10k. I find items, I build wealth, I make new guys. I know there are people out there who can practically one shot Uber Atziri. Maybe someday I'll get there. Probably not, but that's fine, I'd be bored if I had that good of gear. Idk, I just think people get too worked up over what their neighbor has. If you have a Toyota and your neighbor has a Lamborghini does that automatically ruin the idea of ever taking a road trip? Or driving at all? Seems silly, am I right? Team Won
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" I wouldn't say im exactly broke but in a game where items are everything, people should have equal chance and means to acquire them rather than a subset of players being able to bypass playing the game and buy their way into godhood. The ironic part is that mastercrafts do indeed help with that disparity for less wealthy players but as shown above, it also greatly benefits the top .001% as well. regardless, this is a discussion about mastercrafts and not RMT as GGG has solidly proven they can do nothing, absolutely nothing about the latter and it was primarily this reason i stopped playing - that and horrible game balance choices(atiziri gloves) that further exacerbates the disparity between the top .001% and everyone else. IGN: Arlianth Check out my LA build: 1782214 Last edited by Nephalim#2731 on Sep 21, 2014, 3:33:10 PM
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" But why does this bother you? As I understood, you play only std, so there's no competition to be had, where what other people have might affect you. Also, both you and Slayer have 6L shavs, and slayer even got it what, 5 days into the Rampage. That's a BiS armor and you two have it. Should I say that's not ok, the fact that I don't have it, and slayer has it, while he didn't spend any currency to get it? Should we remove any BiS unique from the game? I do agree that masters meta mods allowed for a strong power creep, but in the end, it doesn't really affect me that much. The guys who now have super crafter gear would probably have 6L shavs with binos and mjolners, so from my perspective of a poor fuck nothing really changed. Expect I can slap some lvl 6 mods on my items to make it a bit easier to farm. And even if there were thousands of 450+ dps daggers in Beyond, in 2 months they become irrelevant. And yeah, std is a dumping ground not worth balancing the game around. „I don't give a fuck if it was his tenth anniversary with his goddamn neckbeard...“ „If they think I'm going to let them sweep this pizza guy thing under the rug...“ No mod action. Business as usual. Last edited by Odoakar#1827 on Sep 21, 2014, 4:40:17 PM
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" Bother? I'm pointing out how master crafting boosted the elite. It was said earlier in the thread that the elite were the only people who didn't benefit when in fact they benefited a lot, arguably the most. If someone says "apples are blue" and I point out, they are actually green and red, the conclusion is not that I am bothered by apples. I'll openly admit, however, that I was and am bothered by eternal implementation but that failboat sailed long ago. Casually casual. Last edited by TheAnuhart#4741 on Sep 21, 2014, 4:53:48 PM
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" What you dont understand is that no one in a softcore temp league has ever had a mirrored T1 dagger ever in the history of this game. Its never ever happened. The closest a temp league has ever come is hvrs hardcore invasion mixture of T1 and T2 stats, and that was an absolute miracle and cost him 450 exalts, he finished it about 2 weeks before the end of a 4 month league league. So its not worse gear than what they are going to be using. You see the other problem here? That I have to actually educate you about a part of the game you are trying to argue with me about? Can you see how frustrating that is for me? How can I take anything you say seriously when you dont even understand the basics of this subject? Let me show you an example here of Koreangamers gear show thread.. KGs ambush dagger, this is from a 4 month league.. KGs current Rampage dagger he got within the first month of the league... do you understand now? Do you see the power jump here? How ridiculous this is? People say standard isnt balanced, you know why its not balanced? Because items like that exist, that is what is imbalanced about it. How the temp leagues are imbalanced in the first month? Its ridiculous, you would understand that if you understood endgame gear, which you dont. And I mean no offense by that mate, thats no diss to yourself, Im not being nasty, Im not saying its a bad thing, Im just syaing the majority of the people in this thread who do understand agree, I mean no disrespect brother. " when have I ever talked about 'this bunch' of players with contempt? You just made that up out of nowhere, completely fabricated in your own brain. My original post is trying to argue that casual players got the short end of the stick and that elite players have been buffed way too hard, you would know that if you actually read my post, which you didnt. " if you rad my first post, that was exactly my point. You have just proved my point for me, this master mod will not even be accessible to casual players, instead the elites will zerg masters and get weapons that put them further beyond the casuals than ever before. So you are right, and you are arguing my point for me, so you have won the argument for both of us, thanks. Sadly for you, you were arguing against yourself, so while we both win, you also lost. Congratulations, by completely forgetting the topic we were talking about you have managed to kill yourself to reflect in the forums, well done, I think you've managed a PoE world first. " yes, exactly, so now do you understand what I was talking about in the first post when I said... " This whole thread is about defending the casual players from this ridiculous buff to the elite that puts them so far beyond the casual players that its actually broken. Have you seen people in this thread saying they expect a buff to monster life and monster damage to compensate for how broken this elite end crafting mod is? Where does that leave the casual self found player who dont have access to this and will probably never have access to it? Are you starting to understand the original post you have been arguing against at last? " theyre just making stuff up mate. The title of my thread rattled them and before they even came in they were set on arguing against anything I had to say because they had decided I wanted to take forsaken crafting away from them to protect elite players, which is exactly the opposite of what I actually posted. They didnt read it, they saw what they wanted to see and are now just making stuff up in their own heads to argue against because everything they try and post gets shot down in flames. " rare items have the POTENTIAL to be broken. That is fine, because you are probably more likely to drop a 6 linked shavs and a kaoms off the same mob or find a mirror and 10 exalts in 1 day than you are to find one of these "broken" rares. Its fine that they exist in potential because in reality they do not exist outside of standard. The game is not balanced around their existence, they are just there for the fun of RNG, so that theres always the chance of finding a better weapon no matter how ridiculous the last one you found was. This crafting breaks that, so yes, the rare item is broken, and the crafting is broken for letting an impossible item be possible for a significant number of players. As for all this "who cares what other people do" talk, if the devs said ok everyone can cheat, we have added console commands that let you spawn exalts by typing "give exalt" in your console, would u be ok with that? Maybe some of you would, but most of you wouldnt, and thats exactly why people care, same reason you care. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :) Last edited by Snorkle_uk#0761 on Sep 21, 2014, 5:08:24 PM
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First off, KGs Rampage dagger looks kind of like a Crown of Eyes... nevermind, I see you fixed it. Honestly that first dagger you linked is terrible. I saw a lot better than that on Invasion. So I guess he just cheaped out and didn't upgrade. That is definitely not a fair comparison and you know it.
Secondly, I just searched xyz for 300 dps one handed weapons. Top 5 are all over 385 dps with one or no crafted mods. I mean, you're honestly grasping at straws here. I understand your concern with the item race in the early leagues... but there's more to consider than just the multi-mod: 1. Masters have moved the power level. Period. A "great" weapon will now be better than what we thought was a great weapon a few leagues ago. Take away the multi-mod and you'll still see this. Crafting has changed. 2. We're constantly getting better at the game. A lot of us have played for close to two years. You can't possibly convince me that people were as good with crafting and their currency back in Onslaught. Because they weren't. Times have changed, man. The game isn't even necessarily "easier", but it is better understood for sure. There are greater challenges out there than in CB/OB, but you're correct that the ability to get suited up for maps is definitely easier. Not sure what else to say, since I don't agree with you I'm sure I'll just be labelled as someone who has no idea what I'm talking about. Team Won Last edited by ggnorekthx#0419 on Sep 21, 2014, 5:27:05 PM
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