[1.2.4] SHATTER CHUCK - 3 MILLION SUSTAINABLE DPS (6.7 \W SHOCK & CURSE) - EASY UBER ATZIRI

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andrehbg wrote:

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Tom94 wrote:

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andrehbg wrote:

Do u tested it?
It seens we have very different playstyle them, i usually stay at closer range from mobs, i play with ice spear or freezing pulse, herald of thunder casts really fast its storm, at least the mobs on the frontlie get cursed, increasing ur chance to get a critical strike, from around 90 to the cap. Also i dont play with curse on 6l, i prefer using PCoC since i play with dual void batteries. Also, its very good against bosses, it worked really fine against atziri and the trio. And i personally droped empower and reduced mana, i still have 85 life free, so i dont think its needed at all, can use barrage or lightning warp nonstop

Yeah, I did test it - monsters usually die before getting cursed. I found empower to be the overall better solution since it adds around 10-20% total DPS. This is on par with the curse for bosses, since bosses have an inherent 60% reduced effect of curses, so against things like Atziri Empower is the more reliable choice in the first place. ;)

Also updated the guide to my current setup.

How exactly an empower adds 20% overall dps? A level 20 herald of ice, or level 16 herald of lightning itself increases the overall dps for around 20%, how 2 or 3 aditional levels for both adds up another 20% ? oO

The average damage of my 21/20 freezing pulse goes from 5700 to 6350 when putting Empower in, so it's slightly above 10%. If I wouldn't have such a high-levelled freezing pulse and if my Herald of Thunder wouldn't be lvl 17, then I am sure that would go up further. The reason why I wrote 10-20% is to just provide a ballpark without checking the actual numbers. 20% is probably never reached when having ultimate gems, but it still is a possibility. 10% on the other hand is pretty much always reached / exceeded by a bit.

That being said, when disabling Herald of Ice and Herald of Thunder my 21/20 freezing pulse goes down to 3600 average damage. It looks like Herald of Ice + Herald of Thunder together actually provide a 75% damage increase here. And this is again with a lvl 17 herald of thunder. I'll have to update the original guide to reflect that - didn't expect them to be sooo strong. :P


Edit: Updated the OP to say "50%-100% damage boost from hoi + hot".

A bit low on the ES side.

I caved and got some acuity so i could get rid of vaal pact and use the points elsewhere (for now) but will likely re-sell them later.

Before I had the opportunity to get acuity I was unable to run life/mana like I had hoped because I happened into a good deal on a shavs ring. So I created the following (no eternals used other than on the amulet to make sure i got a prefix... but got 30% multi and was like fuck it)



This allows me to have a 0 cost barrage and i can run 8 total auras.

I need a better wand but otherwise my gear is strong.



I'll probably take out my enhance for RF when I do atziri.

Full gear.



Rampage.

So I just chaosed

Should I master craft cold leech or spell damage (35-44%)? Eternal exalting is out of the question for now

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Goatsebusters wrote:

So I just chaosed

Should I master craft cold leech or spell damage (35-44%)? Eternal exalting is out of the question for now

Unless you absolutely need the leech on your weapon due to resists and needing tri res belt then go with spell damage.

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Tom94 wrote:

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andrehbg wrote:

How exactly an empower adds 20% overall dps? A level 20 herald of ice, or level 16 herald of lightning itself increases the overall dps for around 20%, how 2 or 3 aditional levels for both adds up another 20% ? oO

The average damage of my 21/20 freezing pulse goes from 5700 to 6350 when putting Empower in, so it's slightly above 10%. If I wouldn't have such a high-levelled freezing pulse and if my Herald of Thunder wouldn't be lvl 17, then I am sure that would go up further. The reason why I wrote 10-20% is to just provide a ballpark without checking the actual numbers. 20% is probably never reached when having ultimate gems, but it still is a possibility. 10% on the other hand is pretty much always reached / exceeded by a bit.

That being said, when disabling Herald of Ice and Herald of Thunder my 21/20 freezing pulse goes down to 3600 average damage. It looks like Herald of Ice + Herald of Thunder together actually provide a 75% damage increase here. And this is again with a lvl 17 herald of thunder. I'll have to update the original guide to reflect that - didn't expect them to be sooo strong. :P


Edit: Updated the OP to say "50%-100% damage boost from hoi + hot".

oh, u meant empower on freezing pulse, i tought u said empower on heralds, ye, since FP have less intrincic damage the percentage added by heralds is higher comparing to IS an AB.............

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andrehbg wrote:

oh, u meant empower on freezing pulse, i tought u said empower on heralds, ye, since FP have less intrincic damage the percentage added by heralds is higher comparing to IS an AB.............

I mean empower on heralds. Why would I empower freezing pulse? That would be stupid. I just wrote how my FP dps changes when adding empower to the heralds.

AB and FB get around 10% damage from empowering the heralds, FP gets a bit more.

Thanks for the build Tom, very fun.

Just thought I'd post and share a very viable alternative setup to acuity's for those of us on Rampage (where they are practically unattainable) I'm sure Vaal pact has been mentioned before, but here's my setup, and my DPS loss is pretty minimal. (relative to just switching to acuity's. Since I'm running this on rampage, most of my gear still needs work.)

You could think of this as a mid-range shatterchuck setup. Not cheap, but not 400+ex (besides the Shav's, the rest of my gear is about 10ex lol)

Skill Tree


Explanation:

Alright, so without acuity's you run vaal pact. With Vaal pact you have to run life leech gem in chest AND get about 5 life gain-on-hit to cast barrage. (i have 3 on my wand and 2 on a ring, Could also go with 2-3 lgoh and an eleron ring or ammy)

The problem is obviously dropping a link for life leech. Instead of dropping a spell like arc, i dropped PCOC. To make up for this, I run a power charge generation setup on my gloves (Barrage-COC-Arc-PCOC). I'm currently testing different power charge generators, but like this so far. Per Cast, I get a charge for each barrage cast (1) and for each COC arc (generally 2). I attack ~4 times a second, so usually i get full charges in 1 second. TO maintain these charges, I just need to weave in an attack every ~14 seconds (or use a doedre's elixir and weave an attack every 28 seconds)

**note/edit I've tried the Herald curse on hit Assassin's mark for power charges. Didn't like it as much. Didn't have complete control over generating power charges and for atziri would need to find a different solution.***

So, to run the PCOC generator U need to drop some gem's and/or run unset rings (unset rings would use Blood rage/Righteous Fire) Yes you lose some crit, BUT if you look at the Skill tree, I make up the lost crit by grabbing the best nodes for this build on the entire tree....Eagle eye, conveniently located by....vaal pact.

With these changes, I still can run Herald of Ice, Herald of Thunder, Discipline, all purity's, and haste. I also kept my Immortal call setup. I still empower my purity of fire and Discipline (for 97% fire res). I had to drop an enhance'd bloodrage and cast bloodrage from my unset. However since you grab Berserking (18% ias) I have a net increase in IAS even after dropping enhance. (about 6-10% ias depending on ur enhance gem level)

I hope some of you find this helpful. Don't despair if you can't/don't have God-mode Gloves. Vaal pact is still very viable but you need to make some sacrifices.

Here's some of my gear links

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Jonix wrote:

Skill Tree

Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBCLEMfQ18DjwOSA5cEH8RDxFQEZYUcRZAFy8c3B0UHU8ksCW8KPoqCyo4LR8vbzIJNbk2PTboOlI__EKjRX5GcUcGTLNQMFcrV8lYr1nzXGtd8l9qY0Nmnmr6bEZtGW1sb55wUnC7cNVybHKpdwd4DXvXfll_xoCkgseDCYRIhX2G0YcTidOMC49Gj_qQVZMnlSCboZykn8uio6crqW6smKyqtAy1SLl8vYLAGsHFwfPDbcae2RPbXtvn34rfv-GI6GbpAuoY6rrsGOyw8uHz6vcy99f46_rS_rM=

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBCLEMfQ18DjwOSA5cEH8RDxFQEZYUcRZAFy8c3B0UHU8ksCW8KPoqCyo4LR8vbzIJNbk2PTboOlI__EV-RnFHBkyzUDBXK1fJWK9Z81xrXfJfamNDZp5q-mxGbRlvnnBScLtw1XJscql3B3gNe9d-WX_GgKSCx4MJhEiFfYbRhxOJ04wLj0aP-pBVkyeVIJuhnKSfy6KjpyupbqyYrKq0DLVIuXy9gsAawcXB88Ntxp7ZE9te2-ffit-_4YjoZukC6hjquuwY7LDy4fPq9zL31_jr-tL-s21sHao=

instead for mana reserved?

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Scape wrote:

instead for mana reserved?

I may be wrong, but it looks like u swapped out 1 pt "6% Increased effect of aura's cast", for a "4% reduced mana reserve". You gotta be carful with taking less IEAC. You need to have +80% IEAC for your empowered purity of fire (+5%) to raise your res cap to +9%. Taking 1 point less would drop it to +8%.

If you need mana reserve try empowering an aura that costs less, or just drop something other than IEAC (if doing so would drop you below 80% increased effect)

All of this is assuming you want to keep 97% fire resists with flasks for RF.

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Jonix wrote:

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Scape wrote:

instead for mana reserved?

I may be wrong, but it looks like u swapped out 1 pt "6% Increased effect of aura's cast", for a "4% reduced mana reserve". You gotta be carful with taking less IEAC. You need to have +80% IEAC for your empowered purity of fire (+5%) to raise your res cap to +9%. Taking 1 point less would drop it to +8%.

If you need mana reserve try empowering an aura that costs less, or just drop something other than IEAC (if doing so would drop you below 80% increased effect)

All of this is assuming you want to keep 97% fire resists with flasks for RF.

Ah you're right.