Daggers.. #1 in dps... #1 in crit... #1 in passive tree... am I missing something?

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njohnson wrote:

I don't understand why people complain about things being overpowered. If they are so what, play something that suits you. What does it matter what someone else's build is?

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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njohnson wrote:

I don't understand why people complain about things being overpowered. If they are so what, play something that suits you. What does it matter what someone else's build is?

have you ever played in a group or with friends and found out that you were slowing them down and that they would be better off dropping your ass like a sack of potatoes?

Because that is what everyone else is to a crit build . a sack of potatoes slowing them down.

I mean if you dont play with friends , then sure that is fine... but then why are you playing a multiplayer game?

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plasticeyes wrote:

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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njohnson wrote:

I don't understand why people complain about things being overpowered. If they are so what, play something that suits you. What does it matter what someone else's build is?

have you ever played in a group or with friends and found out that you were slowing them down and that they would be better off dropping your ass like a sack of potatoes?

Because that is what everyone else is to a crit build . a sack of potatoes slowing them down.

I mean if you dont play with friends , then sure that is fine... but then why are you playing a multiplayer game?

so what are you saying ? play crit or don't play PoE ?

build diversity !

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plasticeyes wrote:

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

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njohnson wrote:

I don't understand why people complain about things being overpowered. If they are so what, play something that suits you. What does it matter what someone else's build is?

have you ever played in a group or with friends and found out that you were slowing them down and that they would be better off dropping your ass like a sack of potatoes?

Because that is what everyone else is to a crit build . a sack of potatoes slowing them down.

I mean if you dont play with friends , then sure that is fine... but then why are you playing a multiplayer game?

so what are you saying ? play crit or don't play PoE ?

build diversity !

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

I tried to give two hander an honest shot this league. got to level 70 in 3 days

i do 19k dps double strikes 10k cleaves and 7k leap slams (all 4l) on a 340dps 2 hander

7 frenzy charges.

(btw frenzy with 7 frenzy charges does 2k less than double strike ... hey ggg that's fucked up)

then i meet a guy with two ungis gultch daggers doing 25k dps double strikes with melee splash. and im like .. what the hell?

he then told me he was using them as a joke and his real build is a 40k dps molten strike with a 170k dps dagger and a perandus shield .

all the while im like why did i make a 2 hander build.

I know for a fact that my 2 hander build wont be map capable just on the fact that i cant stack enough defenses to make up for the loss of that free block , life , resists and armor/es/evasion on a shield .

and now im farming docks for masters while leveling a summoner on an alt account in which the bloody zombies will have 70 block chance with bone offering and 3 timez my hp pool.

and that is one zombie.

2 handers are in a bad spot. and daggers are ridiculous all crit weapons are. everyone i know is rolling crit.

even my mate who is building a bow build .. is using a dagger to level up ... what .. the heck is that?

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

crit is a balance issue , it has always been a balance issue. we need to stop kicking it under the rug

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missuse wrote:

I have a clan mate that has a mirrored 2h axe. He is using it in a RT build. He sits at 69k cyclone. I have a mirrored dagger and my reave is 140 k with auras. We both have very high survivability. Guess what, when we map he clears most shit before I get my reave charges up.

Ive bought my former diamond rings from a guy who had one of the best crit/staff builds. He had over 120k cyclone which is almost double than Tommy (my before mentioned clan mate has).

What numbers should I run? I posted two builds, a fully optimized dagger life build with block and the first crit stave build I could come up with 180% life. Check them out. Do number crunching, I am sure the stave will be at least at 820/560 = 1,46 more dps compared to daggers with those builds. DPS is not the issue, its the fact that in the Atziri patch everyone copied dagger ST low life builds since they could run high dps and a lot of auras and obliterate uber.