Trade Hate: Which one takes more skill?
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free market > commie market
anything is everything
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" Hah! So funny when people can't separate socialistic ideas from communistic ones. Just shows how little they really have to add to the conversation. |
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" Even funnier when people take a short joke comment seriously. I cringed. anything is everything Last edited by Manocean on Jul 29, 2014, 10:42:03 PM
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" "Joke" Okay. |
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" Yea.... it was a comment that was so blatantly not to be taken seriously that I was surprised to get such a cringe worthy condescending reply to it haha [removed by support] anyways i aint no commie let the markets flow free as a river of PBR anything is everything Last edited by Michael_GGG on Jul 29, 2014, 11:05:24 PM
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" And you counter with an overwhelming number of false assumptions? The irony is strong with this one. I don't claim to be an economic genius, but I have studied business, economy, political/social sciences, and more at the college level, so I just find this stuff as amusing as you claim to. Besides, there hasn't been anything relevant or important posted in the last 5 pages, so may as well have some fun with it. Edit: I didn't claim you were a communist either, and I even defended the capitalist systems this game employs for the purpose of the game. My only beef with capitalism in a real world setting is that it runs rampant and unchecked by the socialist systems which could balance it out to (through the best of both philosophies) produce a more ideal outcome. I don't know what I would "label" myself as. Maybe just an idealist. /offtopic Last edited by Michael_GGG on Jul 29, 2014, 11:05:06 PM
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welp i dont have a need to prove myself because i only came in here to make a silly comment anyways
anything is everything
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" I can be nice to people, but you are pushing it here. I don't appreciate your passive-aggressive tone. So allow me to retort in a similar fashion. First of all, the claim that the free market is "alive and well" is only true by it's own standards (and not even then really). Income inequality is at an all time high, poverty is a serious issue (ironically more so in the US, due to it's increased support of a free market, compared to more socialist european countries). Capitalism produces goods for profit. Socialism produces goods for use. There is no doubt in my mind that some socialist ideas are idealistic and unrealistic (at least given the current state of the world), however the impracticality of some of these ideas in the here and now absolutely doesn't mean that we should not ever consider better alternatives for the future. Post-scarcity economics, state socialism, etc... are all viable alternatives that are worth considering and in the case of post-scarcity economics even ideals well worth working towards. Call it altruistic and naive, I don't care. I believe in a better future for coming generations. I hear this argument alot that "without capitalism there is no innovation", this might be true, but on the other hand how can you categorically say that? Are you absolutely sure that capitalism is the only economical system that could allow people to make "succesful F2P ARPGs"? Are we really required to live in a system where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer because it's the only system that can encourage innovation and hard work? And there is of course this naive notion that "the rich deserve to be rich" and "the poor deserve to be poor", which is complete nonsense. Does Paris Hilton deserve to be rich? Granted that's a rather extreme example of what I'm talking about, but you get the point. But even so, are the contributions of a a business owner worth 1000x more than the contributions of a doctor who saves lives on a daily basis? Why? Because the business owner acts in a way that purely benefits himself, whereas the doctor deserve to earn less because they naively chose to help others? Is it really that silly to think that economics, at least in part, should reflect some moral standards? I'm a firm proponent of ethical socialism. I believe in public healthcare, public education, even public housing. I believe in progressive taxation and even higher income taxes for the rich. To you this will probably seem naive and absurd, but guess what, Europe is slowly drifting more and more into socialism and european countries are doing just fine... in fact some socialist european countries are doing significantly BETTER than the "free-market embracing" US (germany, scandinavia, etc..) in terms of living standards, social inequalities and so on. I'm not advocating for a "planned economy", what I'm advocating for is a heavily regulated market, that is still at it's core capitalistic, but better regulated, with less inequality. I view the market as a means to and end, not an end in and of itself. The purpose of the market should be to provide ALL people with the things they need. The market need not necessarily be profit-driven. Saying that would not only be myopic, but also narrow-minded. #1 Victim of Murphy's Law. Last edited by SlixSC on Jul 29, 2014, 11:26:10 PM
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No idea how this topic reached over 40 pages. OP does not present anything compelling to discuss. Yes trading requires more skill than finding something from a drop. That's no secret.
People congratulate others on finding a lucky drop simply for being lucky. Here is the definition of congratulations: "a message telling someone that you are happy because of his or her success or good luck" Don't really care about the SFL bait. It's not really SFL everyone is after, it's increased droprates. The game should be more rewarding in some areas but as a whole I disagree with that position too. Last edited by kasub on Jul 29, 2014, 11:28:31 PM
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