Worried about RMT "posts like these should be BANNED"

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

Nobody is contesting GGG's ownership of the game. That is a bizarre claim and I don't know how making RMT a public discussion = trying to take control of PoE.

The existence of a $250 RMT wand is a black stain on this game. As are the 1000s of bots who have single handedly tanked the value of chaos in standard from 20:1 to 31:1 over the course of a mere 4 months. Along with devaluing all semi-rare to rare uniques in the game.

GGG has stated the economy is the post important aspect of PoE. Given that is the case you think people shouldn't have the right to talk about something that is ruining said economy?

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DiamondDragonScales wrote:

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

Nobody is contesting GGG's ownership of the game. That is a bizarre claim and I don't know how making RMT a public discussion = trying to take control of PoE.

The existence of a $250 RMT wand is a black stain on this game. As are the 1000s of bots who have single handedly tanked the value of chaos in standard from 20:1 to 31:1 over the course of a mere 4 months. Along with devaluing all semi-rare to rare uniques in the game.

GGG has stated the economy is the post important aspect of PoE. Given that is the case you think people shouldn't have the right to talk about something that is ruining said economy?

I truly think that the New Leagues mess around with the economy of the game far more than the RMT uses. At the start of a new League prices are crazy, but that is the economics of any trade related system, real or game play.

That said why utilize the said 31:1 ratio? Take a stand and trade at the rate you believe is just and fair. If more player take a stand against high ratio's the currency will have to stabilize itself. The trade is as much in your hands as it is in anyone else's.

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Nightmare90 wrote:

Am I the only one thinking that the existence of a wand for $250 is exactly an evidence that the system GGG proceeds to fight RMT is working? If it was not, we would have the same wand flying around for a much lesser price as RMT sites would have a much easier time to give a great amount of offer. Only people with really loose pockets would spend so much on one item in a game with a meta shifting so often.

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torturo wrote:

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Nightmare90 wrote:

Am I the only one thinking that the existence of a wand for $250 is exactly an evidence that the system GGG proceeds to fight RMT is working? If it was not, we would have the same wand flying around for a much lesser price as RMT sites would have a much easier time to give a great amount of offer. Only people with really loose pockets would spend so much on one item in a game with a meta shifting so often.

Yes, you are the one and only.
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Nightmare90 wrote:

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Fluffy_Puppies wrote:

Nobody is contesting GGG's ownership of the game. That is a bizarre claim and I don't know how making RMT a public discussion = trying to take control of PoE.

The existence of a $250 RMT wand is a black stain on this game. As are the 1000s of bots who have single handedly tanked the value of chaos in standard from 20:1 to 31:1 over the course of a mere 4 months. Along with devaluing all semi-rare to rare uniques in the game.

GGG has stated the economy is the post important aspect of PoE. Given that is the case you think people shouldn't have the right to talk about something that is ruining said economy?

Am I the only one thinking that the existence of a wand for $250 is exactly an evidence that the system GGG proceeds to fight RMT is working? If it was not, we would have the same wand flying around for a much lesser price as RMT sites would have a much easier time to give a great amount of offer. Only people with really loose pockets would spend so much on one item in a game with a meta shifting so often.

So yeah, you can see it one way ore the other. Fact is compared to many other F2P titles you PoE is doing a great deal to limit RMT at its core. Personally I am not for banning customers but that is just a preference which GGG does not share necessarily. They warn RMTers before outright banning them, which is why one does not see them banned too often. No one would be so stupid to make a good target two times and risking to lose everything you bought including or especially MTX.

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sidtherat wrote:

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Nightmare90 wrote:

Am I the only one thinking that the existence of a wand for $250 is exactly an evidence that the system GGG proceeds to fight RMT is working? If it was not, we would have the same wand flying around for a much lesser price as RMT sites would have a much easier time to give a great amount of offer. Only people with really loose pockets would spend so much on one item in a game with a meta shifting so often.

So yeah, you can see it one way ore the other. Fact is compared to many other F2P titles you PoE is doing a great deal to limit RMT at its core. Personally I am not for banning customers but that is just a preference which GGG does not share necessarily. They warn RMTers before outright banning them, which is why one does not see them banned too often. No one would be so stupid to make a good target two times and risking to lose everything you bought including or especially MTX.

people that make RMT their source of HUGE income dont care about MTX. they get orbs from 'illegal' sources, they can afford buying stash tabs as they are making real money seling fake pixels with extreme profit margins etc etc

ggg does very very little to stop rmt - high profile players are toping jsp forums for years, people are using map hacks in races - for years, people are doing lots of such stuff - and there are no visible signs that playing-cheating has any downsides

ofc people shall provide 'obvious' - but they are killing bots. yeah right? and so what? just like with real world - only immediate reaction and appropriate punishment stops the crime. note the 'immediate'. that 250$ wand (and several other items) are here for how long?

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sidtherat wrote:

people that make RMT their source of HUGE income dont care about MTX. they get orbs from 'illegal' sources, they can afford buying stash tabs as they are making real money seling fake pixels with extreme profit margins etc etc

ggg does very very little to stop rmt - high profile players are toping jsp forums for years, people are using map hacks in races - for years, people are doing lots of such stuff - and there are no visible signs that playing-cheating has any downsides

ofc people shall provide 'obvious' - but they are killing bots. yeah right? and so what? just like with real world - only immediate reaction and appropriate punishment stops the crime. note the 'immediate'. that 250$ wand (and several other items) are here for how long?

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torturo wrote:

Nightmare90, delete the quote remaining, if it's considered that inappropriate.

I hope you realize that crafting of this wand cost not less than 1000ex, probably much more.
That's the reason it's that expensive, combined with lower demand, as wand builds are not much popular nowadays, not that rmt-ers are in such a trouble.