The case against Eternal Orbs and the benefits of removing them

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TheAnuhart wrote:

...let's look at what eternal+mirror gives us.

Now how, exactly, is this any different to the unique>rare situation that GGG wanted to avoid?

Exactly. The main function of Eternals and Mirrors is to give botters and rmt sites the wherewithal to mint their own Unique Rares.

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Veruski wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

They've repeatedly said they won't keep adding higher suffixes.

irrelevant.

it's a tool that can be used to fix a problem.

if GGG refuses to use the tools they have available to fix the problems they have made, then it's no surprise the game is in the state that it is in.

meanwhile: do you have anything useful to add?

Yes. I don't want power creep from increasing the affix pool. Hell, I would prefer eternal over ever increasing affix mods.

Power creep via increasing affixes is HORRIBLE.

Eternal I don't like because of creep, but still, no more affixes. Luckily, I don't foresee them being added.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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Veruski wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

They've repeatedly said they won't keep adding higher suffixes.

irrelevant.

it's a tool that can be used to fix a problem.

if GGG refuses to use the tools they have available to fix the problems they have made, then it's no surprise the game is in the state that it is in.

meanwhile: do you have anything useful to add?

Yes. I don't want power creep from increasing the affix pool. Hell, I would prefer eternal over ever increasing affix mods.

Power creep via increasing affixes is HORRIBLE.

Eternal I don't like because of creep, but still, no more affixes. Luckily, I don't foresee them being added.

If you remove eternals, and add 1 additional affix tier, it would be a net reduction in power creep.

I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

Furthermore, if you actually do want eternals removed, it has to be done in such a way that won't infuriate the playerbase.

People play on Standard, slayer. Maybe you don't. I don't. But people do.

If you removed eternals and didn't increase the affix pool by at least 1 tier, it would be no different than giving an incredible, massive advantage to the people who already have perfect items. Do you understand?

Even with the release of 1 tier, it would still impart a pretty big advantage to the people with "legacy rares" -- but at least it would be a temporary advantage, rather than a permanent one.

I can't even believe you're an alpha tester. Your input seems to be bland and worthless.

They could also introduce more useful affixes instead of just outright better ones. For example, the mod pools for chest armors are painfully dull IMO. It would be nice to see mana regen on INT armor or dodge on EV armors for example.

Just because I want something removed doesn't mean it will. I don't need to think about the consequences of removing them, because I know damn well that they won't be taken out of the game.

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JahIthBer89 wrote:

They could also introduce more useful affixes instead of just outright better ones. For example, the mod pools for chest armors are painfully dull IMO. It would be nice to see mana regen on INT armor or dodge on EV armors for example.

This I would like see more of. But not as affixes. Or rather, I would like to see them added as implicit modifiers. Like the MS chest and resist AR.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Just because I want something removed doesn't mean it will. I don't need to think about the consequences of removing them, because I know damn well that they won't be taken out of the game.

And I know damn well PoE is dying and losing popularity every season, every month.

Certainly a good way to continue in this direction is to not fix previous blunders.

You're just proving that you have nothing to add to the discussion.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Just because I want something removed doesn't mean it will. I don't need to think about the consequences of removing them, because I know damn well that they won't be taken out of the game.

What a quality alpha member.

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bunnyxian90 wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Just because I want something removed doesn't mean it will. I don't need to think about the consequences of removing them, because I know damn well that they won't be taken out of the game.

What a quality alpha member.

It's an orb. Not a node. Not a unique. Not a skill. At *best* they could be made legacy. But they will never be deleted through force.

Me being an alpha member is irrelevant btw. It's about bug finding, and giving feedback on skills and the tree. That's it.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

It's an orb. Not a node. Not a unique. Not a skill. At *best* they could be made legacy. But they will never be deleted through force.

then what is there to discuss? why are you in this thread? why are you posting here?

Slayer said it won't happen, so clearly it won't happen...