[2.1 Ghazzy - Summoner Guides] Low Budget Builds

thx for the reply ghazzy!
well it's to late to turn back now haha. i made a HB version of ur build. just the gem is not fully optimized. i did normal atziri at lvl80 and it was a breeze. gems not 20/20 yet and i still have minion dmg nodes and duration nodes that i haven't spec to yet. just going to get better and better. loving this build overall. i could push myself and buy lvl4 emp but i need to farm some more currencies. uber is not really that important to me, but if i have a chance to give it a go i'll let u guys know whats the result. thx again man ^^

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xiltex wrote:

thx for the reply ghazzy!
well it's to late to turn back now haha. i made a HB version of ur build. just the gem is not fully optimized. i did normal atziri at lvl80 and it was a breeze. gems not 20/20 yet and i still have minion dmg nodes and duration nodes that i haven't spec to yet. just going to get better and better. loving this build overall. i could push myself and buy lvl4 emp but i need to farm some more currencies. uber is not really that important to me, but if i have a chance to give it a go i'll let u guys know whats the result. thx again man ^^

Cheers!
The more currency you invest in the build the funnier it gets. HB is as the title says, a high budget one.
I would recommend the mirrorservice gear if you reach that point, the heavier the gear the funnier the build :)

Can't wait to use this for act 4!

Umm there is something in the tree that i don't understand , how did you select passives such as devotion, the increase skill duration nodes in the left of the tree, and herd the flock nodes without selecting the any previous nodes ? is this an error in the web skill tree or is there something here that i am missing ?

thanks ! :)

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Umm there is something in the tree that i don't understand , how did you select passives such as devotion, the increase skill duration nodes in the left of the tree, and herd the flock nodes without selecting the any previous nodes ? is this an error in the web skill tree or is there something here that i am missing ?

thanks ! :)

Its a bug probably.


1-Ghazzy, do you know/ already tryed any strategy that works good when we get mirror in atziri?
It seems for me that after I see its a mirror and switch for another clone I will probably die, cuz the skulls keep hitting the mirror. Dont know how to speed them, or make them switch the target faster.

2-Btw, I see your gloves have 2 green sockets with vaal haste and desencrate. Wouldnt it be better if u change the collors to have reduced mana + discipline in gloves? RB/RB instead of GG/RB
This way you have vaal haste and desencrate with increase duration. Dont think reduced mana is very important for desencrate/flesh offering.

3-Why spell echo 21/20 instead of 21/0 ?


Is the gear in your current gear updated?

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Umm there is something in the tree that i don't understand , how did you select passives such as devotion, the increase skill duration nodes in the left of the tree, and herd the flock nodes without selecting the any previous nodes ? is this an error in the web skill tree or is there something here that i am missing ?

thanks ! :)

Its a bug probably.


1-Ghazzy, do you know/ already tryed any strategy that works good when we get mirror in atziri?
It seems for me that after I see its a mirror and switch for another clone I will probably die, cuz the skulls keep hitting the mirror. Dont know how to speed them, or make them switch the target faster.

2-Btw, I see your gloves have 2 green sockets with vaal haste and desencrate. Wouldnt it be better if u change the collors to have reduced mana + discipline in gloves? RB/RB instead of GG/RB
This way you have vaal haste and desencrate with increase duration. Dont think reduced mana is very important for desencrate/flesh offering.

3-Why spell echo 21/20 instead of 21/0 ?


Is the gear in your current gear updated?

Must be using the broken links inside the buildguide, try the buildtree links on top of the thread instead!

1) If you see the mirror i'd recommend moving to another target ASAP and start casting there, the spirits you've pre-casted will still attack the mirror one but your new ones should instead go for the other target. Against regular Atziri you should in a fairly early stage be able to rape the mirror one anyways :)
2) Reason I havn't bothered changing this is due to the fact that the 2 extra vaal hastes i use are only for the clone phases vs Uber Atziri, of course inc duration would be better suited but it is not needed in the fight as they already lasts over 10sec each. (During mapping i unequip all but 1 Vaal Haste gem to rotate that for higher map clearing speed.)
3) I riped my first vaaled Echo lvl 20/0 to 19/0 so i bought a 20/20 and vaaled it. You do not need quality for SRS.

Gear is updated yes, i believe so at least :)

Hello again Ghazzy,

Reading about gems I see that the setup for 6l atm is swaping
melee dmg on full life/added fire/ melee splash.

We just dont use minion damage because the collor of this gem
just doesnt help, since its slightly better than added fire,
as u said some pages before.

Minion damage gives 92% at 20/20
against
melee physical damage 59% 20/20
added fire damage 54% 20/20
melee damage on full 59% 20/20

Manapool will be higher, but why not using minion damage instead of melee physical ?
I dont know how to calculate that,I mean, if skulls have 1000dps, I assume they will gain
920,590,540 and 590 with that gems. But what about multistrike, melee physical repeat affect the gems
or just the physical attack of the skulls?


Seeing the tree for LowLife I made some modifications. To get the skill duration nodes, u go for evasion and then for skill duration, spending 6 points. Since the gear is basically pure ES, I dont see why not following the left path, getting life instead of EV, since life path is shorter and %ev doesnt increase our evasion that much...If u have a good gear you dont need sentinel, otherwise u get it to cap the res. http://postimg.org/image/4z061lnj7/

Then, you get lots of manaregen nodes. I was using them and just swap for reduced manacost, getting more ES, strenght and Dex. 12% doesnt feel that good but Worked as good as 50% manaregen for me.Good thing is we get more attributes and more ES.
http://postimg.org/image/pqmxtn7sx/

Did you already tried this setup? What do you think about it?

Thanks for your time again, hope this optimize the build somehow, cheers.

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Hello again Ghazzy,

Reading about gems I see that the setup for 6l atm is swaping
melee dmg on full life/added fire/ melee splash.

We just dont use minion damage because the collor of this gem
just doesnt help, since its slightly better than added fire,
as u said some pages before.

Minion damage gives 92% at 20/20
against
melee physical damage 59% 20/20
added fire damage 54% 20/20
melee damage on full 59% 20/20

Manapool will be higher, but why not using minion damage instead of melee physical ?
I dont know how to calculate that,I mean, if skulls have 1000dps, I assume they will gain
920,590,540 and 590 with that gems. But what about multistrike, melee physical repeat affect the gems
or just the physical attack of the skulls?


Seeing the tree for LowLife I made some modifications. To get the skill duration nodes, u go for evasion and then for skill duration, spending 6 points. Since the gear is basically pure ES, I dont see why not following the left path, getting life instead of EV, since life path is shorter and %ev doesnt increase our evasion that much...If u have a good gear you dont need sentinel, otherwise u get it to cap the res. http://postimg.org/image/4z061lnj7/

Then, you get lots of manaregen nodes. I was using them and just swap for reduced manacost, getting more ES, strenght and Dex. 12% doesnt feel that good but Worked as good as 50% manaregen for me.Good thing is we get more attributes and more ES.
http://postimg.org/image/pqmxtn7sx/

Did you already tried this setup? What do you think about it?

Thanks for your time again, hope this optimize the build somehow, cheers.

Hey!

Thank you for taking the time to post all of this, it is very nice to read and to see how you've perfected the build to your liking.

Reason I don't use the left route around the Scion starting wheel is because life literally gives the low-life build nothing at all. Whilst the little evasion actually gives us a tini, tiny bit of defence :) I've recently considered respeccing it to gain the extra nodes to spec in to better areas but so far I havn't bothered much as the difference is extremely minimal just like the little evasion bonus also is a very small bonus.

When it comes to Melee Physical it is a "MORE" multiplier which is why it's even better than Empower gem (hence why empower is the 6th link we use). I've considered to drop some AoE DMG to change my Melee Splash for Empower to single target so that i can optimize my single target DMG with Minion Damage instead (completely removing Added Fire from the equation). Only problem with this is that I would need to test it on the trash in Uber Atziri map so that i can guarantee not to screw myself over by loosing that much AOE dmg. On top of that I only use Added Fire for single target boss fights where there is a risk of the spirits taking dmg such as trio-boss. On Atziri herself as well as the Vaal Overlord boss in Atziri, I use Melee DMG when full life for yet another "MORE" DMG multiplier that is insanely better than Minion Damage! :)

Keep in mind that the SRS are doing 100% physical DMG when it comes to DMG calculations (it is when they hit the enemies then converted in to 50% phys & 50% fire).


I hope that gave you the answers you needed?

The difference of one or two points is better than evasion Imo, since you can get 6% ES and with your gear that means much more Survivability.
Im not sure the meaning of MORE multiplier, the point im not getting is:
How this multipliers are applied?

SRS lvl28 gem gives a dmg of 633-949, avg is 796, lets say 800.

Melee physical dmg is 10% + 50%more melee physical dmg.
In the end 880 + (440) = 1320

Minion dmg is 92% , so 800*0.92 = 736. In the end 800+736 = 1536

Sorry if thats too basic/stupid but thats the part im still missing.
When u say about the more multiplication is like hatred will get some of the
melee physical bonus but not the minion damage bonus? I just dont know the order
this multiplications apply or stack with each other.

Really appreciate your time and patiente answering all this.

You've to add all inc. dmg from tree and so on
so you get like Phys Dmg * ( 1 + inc. dmg ~ 4) * more multi (1.59)

and 5*1,6=8 instead of 6 if you just add 0.9 to 5 ;)

but there is an excel sheet with the precised calculation

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Ceratoidei wrote:

You've to add all inc. dmg from tree and so on
so you get like Phys Dmg * ( 1 + inc. dmg ~ 4) * more multi (1.59)

and 5*1,6=8 instead of 6 if you just add 0.9 to 5 ;)

but there is an excel sheet with the precised calculation

Do you know the link os this excel sheet? Will help me a lot.
Thanks for the reply.