40% Vendor Recipe

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mark1030 wrote:

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Adrinok wrote:

That makes sense as to why it doesn't give me 2 Glassblower's Bauble's.

Perhaps a re-wording of the second rule would help this situation?

Reword it how? It already says items totaling 40% and nothing about 80%. Would you want to add a line "Not valid with any other offers"?

What I was trying to say was that I had a total of 95%. At 80% I should be getting 2 Glassblower's Bauble's because 2 x 40% = 80%. Since I had 5 flasks with 19% quality on it, what Ezhiel said made sense if that was GGG's intention of the recipe.

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Nicholas_Steel wrote:

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Adrinok wrote:

- Items of that category with a total of at least 40% quality.

"A Set of items of that category with a total of at least 40% quality (Excess Quality per set is discarded)"
Re-word it to something like this?

Something like this would make more sense.

Now, if the intention of this recipe isn't like what it's supposed to be, the leftover quality on items should have given me 2 Glassblower's Baubles regardless of how many items I sell to the vendor.

The intention of the recipe is whole items get vendored for a whole result. Not partial items get vendored and the remainders get used for a second recipe.

There's a single recipe. Items adding up to 40% quality will give you a result. There is no 80% recipe. There is no 'whatever's left over gets carried into the next recipe'. I think the intention couldn't be clearer. If they wanted to make additional recipes for 80% and 120%, then it wiould work like you want. But that's not the current reality.

Are you trying to be a troll here?

I said twice now that I understood the recipe after hearing another perspective from Ezhiel.

I know how the 40% recipe works in accordance to having a total sum of 40%. What I didn't know was what would happen with an odd number of an item with the same amount of quality on all of them totalling 80%, 120%, 160%, etc. - hence 5 x 19 = 95% =/= 2x currency of that item in return.

Not being a troll. You just questioned GGG's intention several times in your last post so I was trying to explicitly say that if GGG had other intentions, they would have made additional recipes.

dear mark1030,
please try to put different type of quality flasks into the vendor window which sum up to over 80% but below 120% of quality and you will see yourself that the vendor will give you 2 glassblower baubles and some wisdom scraps in return.

from the image i posted you can see that it already works that way. for me.
i still don't know what op did wrong.

@Adrinok calling somebody a troll isn't helpful to clear this up.
i absolutely appreciate mark1030's work here in the support section and so should you. sometimes an issue clarifies itself after some time, sometimes it takes longer :)

Let's do an example once again.


CASE 1:
You have flasks with the following qualities: 18, 16, 13, 12, 10, 8, 6
The total quality of the flasks is 83.

These flasks can be divided into two groups like this so they both reach 40% or more:
a) 18 + 6 + 16 = 40 (flasks bound to recipe for 1 bauble, no quality wasted)
b) 13 + 12 + 10 + 8 = 43 (flasks bound to recipe for 1 bauble, 3 quality wasted)

2 baubles given.



CASE 2:
You have flasks with the following qualities: 19, 18, 17, 15, 14
The total quality of the flasks is 83.

These flasks can not be divided into two groups so they both reach 40% or more. From the values we can see that you can only get more than 40% by picking 3 flasks. Any three flasks you pick will waste a large amount of quality. The least wasteful would be:
a) 14 + 15 + 17 = 46 (flasks bound to recipe for 1 bauble, 6 quality wasted)
The remaining 2 flasks do not reach another 40% recipe:
b) 19 + 18 = 37 (no recipe entered)

1 bauble given + standard/plain vendor price for the remaining two flasks.



Even though I knew how it works, I went and double checked it with the following flasks:
19, 19, 13, 13, 11, 7 (= total 82%)

Vendor offered me 1 bauble + 3 scroll fragments.

4*18 + 11 = 83. --> 1 Bauble because there is no 80% recipe!!!



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ah, ok. looks like you're right and, when selling, i never hit the combination of flask groups which don't group into "40% quality"-sets. or didn't notice :(
thanks alot for clearing that up.

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geradon wrote:

ah, ok. looks like you're right and, when selling, i never hit the combination of flask groups which don't group into "40% quality"-sets. or didn't notice :(
thanks alot for clearing that up.

On the bright side, just think about how lucky you've been to always have good combinations that add up to 40% so you wouldn't notice :)

I might have overreacted a little due to the way I read his post which I'll apologize for.

However, when I read it and let me state this for the third time so we can finally put this behind us:

The way he said it made me feel like he didn't know that I know there was no "80/120/160% recipe" but I knew about the 40% recipe. What I didn't know was that the recipe wasn't accumulative with the excess quality over 40% not rolling over to make a second Bauble if it reached the next 40%, hence 80%.