Add "cannot leech" ( / less leech ) modes

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

fruz I like The idea as a concept , but in practice it would require ggg buffing the alternatives

namely passive regen and potions to a level that can be seen as competitive with even light leech , which can easily reach 1k hp/s with no effort and well over 10k hps for vaal pact builds.

And that is hard to do.

I'd just like to add that my best "combat healer" uses LGoH (cyclone/multistrike/BoR) and heals in the order of 4-5khp/s. At that point its a matter that if im in combat i cannot die (then i get stuck on some random blade of grass and stop attacking on the server, but dont get control back on the client for another 2 seconds by which time im dead cos im surrounded by dozens of mobs). It would also not be affected by a no leech mod on a map.

OP, I think a no leech map mod is a good idea, btw.

B.

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Leech basically bypasses the "no-regen/50% regen"

no, it doesn't

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Perz wrote:

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Leech basically bypasses the "no-regen/50% regen"

no, it doesn't

It does if you invest a little bit ( enough ) in it, at least for physical builds that's easy.
Now elemental builds have it harder, but if they don't have leech ... we cannot include them here.

Just mind drinker + one mana flask makes my ranger run 50%regen maps easily, it's a tiny little bit slower and if I want to chain flicker on everything I need to use my single potion at least once, but still ...
No regen is getting harder only when there are endurance charges on monsters included, making leech less efficient and mana management more tedious, it is still manageable however, with almost no investment ( life leech is not a problem in both cases, it works just fine ).

Of course not everyone is running VP, leech still makes up for the lack of regeneration in no-regen maps if you have enough dps.


@bredin : but you need more investment for that : you use an extra support gem, which physical damage dealers don't need ( that's quite unfair to elemental because it's too easy for physical to get it tbh, but it is apparently going to change with SotV, or at least the gap would be reduced ). Anyway how do you like Lightning Thorns with such a build ? :pp
It has this weakness, like LA + LGoH builds =).

bumpppp

From the SotV patchnotes ( 04/04/2014 ) :

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Vaal Pact no longer suppresses life recovery from flasks. It still prevents life regeneration and now also reduces your leech by 60%

You're on the good way GGG :).
This could make my ranger's life significantly harder though :(( ( it is less mandatory with the new leech mechanism I guess though :)) )

EDIT : read "to 60%" and not "by 60%" ... this *might* be too much lol.