Add "cannot leech" ( / less leech ) modes

Hey

Considering the current balance, it seems than only two mechanism are really viable and used in end-game ( = mapping ) :

- Aegis Aurora
- Leech

Leech basically bypasses the "no-regen/50% regen", the reflect mobs, and with vaal pact one can fully rely on leech as a defence mechanism depending on the build.



I think that the game would be less "brainless" if there were some "Cannot leech" ( or less leech maybe ? ) modes :
- on monsters ( same as any other mods )
- on maps ( same as other map mods )

This mechanism already exist on players ( bloodless, Sin Trek boots ), so why not implement it on monsters/maps ??


As it stands, with Vaal Pact : leech has no weakness, and this does not promote build diversity since ( apart from AA builds ) this is undoubtedly the best mechanism to survive at high level.

( And I'm proposing that with a main character quite heavily relying on leech btw )

as a map mod? sure, as a mode? fuck that shit.
basically.

Heavily relying on one single mechanism to survive should have flaws, especially when this mechanism is super effective.
It could be an aura if not a mode, that'd be fine too.

- LA/CoC builds are handicapped by Lightning Thorns monsters.
- Burning builds are handicapped by fire resistant monsters
- Double curse builds are handicapped by hexproof monsters
- High dps crit daggers are handicapped by reflecting monsters beyond some very high damage valueH-
- ES build based on kiting/ES recovery increase are handiccapped by bleeding causing monsters
- Leech builds are handicapped by ..... nothing basically.

One could imagine that a cannot leech mode and reflect would be mutually exclusive be exclusive also.

fruz I like The idea as a concept , but in practice it would require ggg buffing the alternatives

namely passive regen and potions to a level that can be seen as competitive with even light leech , which can easily reach 1k hp/s with no effort and well over 10k hps for vaal pact builds.

And that is hard to do.

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

fruz I like The idea as a concept , but in practice it would require ggg buffing the alternatives

namely passive regen and potions to a level that can be seen as competitive with even light leech , which can easily reach 1k hp/s with no effort and well over 10k hps for vaal pact builds.

And that is hard to do.

I agree with you on that, GGG should buff the alternatives, not by much for some, but it would still benefit from some attention.
It would need some rebalancing, but anyway the place that leech has at the moment doesn't seem to be balanced lol.

Rebalancing the game as a suggestion? I'm in severe shock.

Yes, the game needs rebalancing. BADLY.

I'm glad to see this thread took a more constructive turn.

As people stated, my problem is with the forcing of players to min/max and choose either full life or CI, and the mechanic that really forces this is the fact that the entire game is balanced around players being able to leech. To that end, we are forced to choose between leeching ES or HP, and never both.

Leeching ES and using LOH doesn't work for casters.

added "less leech" as an alternative in the first post title/content

and bump

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Sound reasoning, sound idea.