Desacrate + Detonate Dead

if the levels of the corpses are tied to the actual zone and not just act1/act2/act3 then it also means that people who were spending currency to roll "demon" maps just to get their high level spectres out finally have a solution.

sure, it might not always be a lvl 76 BM, but at least it would be a lvl76mob instead of a lvl66

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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soul4hdwn wrote:

well using desecrate for DD isn't nearly that "op" its just a tad more setting up, which is your cost.

That's what the totems solve though. If you have a dual totem build, I suggest you try it out as a combination ;)

Dual totems? Doesn't that neuter your ability to do damage with DD at all? XD

Seriously, lets not give them the idea this needs nerfing yet, I'm already sick of this balance roller coaster as it is, it helps no one.

So I tried it on my old dual totem sporker. If you have both gems linked to spell totem, DD dosent do anytthing.

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IshigaNojima wrote:

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MonstaMunch wrote:

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soul4hdwn wrote:

well using desecrate for DD isn't nearly that "op" its just a tad more setting up, which is your cost.

That's what the totems solve though. If you have a dual totem build, I suggest you try it out as a combination ;)

Dual totems? Doesn't that neuter your ability to do damage with DD at all? XD

Seriously, lets not give them the idea this needs nerfing yet, I'm already sick of this balance roller coaster as it is, it helps no one.

You can put DD on traps, mines or since you're dual totems, on a second totem.
One totem for Desecrate, and another for DD.

or...

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Kenzorz wrote:

You can put DD .... on a second totem.
One totem for Desecrate, and another for DD.

This is what I was trying to say, and I've just double checked that it still works and it does. Desecrate totem, detonate dead totem, then just kite enemies into range and watch everything die.

The cooldown is bypassed with a spell totem?

I was thinking linking desecrate ground to trap + multitraps :).

If the cooldown is bypassed with a spell totem that's pretty op and flawed as fuck lol :D

I highly doubt cooldown is bypassed by totem seeing it's not bypassed with cold snap or enduring cry.
Trap + multitrap should work tho. Mines too.

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Boem wrote:

The cooldown is bypassed with a spell totem?

I was thinking linking desecrate ground to trap + multitraps :).

If the cooldown is bypassed with a spell totem that's pretty op and flawed as fuck lol :D

The cooldown isn't completely bypassed.

You have 3 Descecrate Totem charges.
You cast one totem (you now have 2 Desecrate Totem charges), that totem has 3 of it's own Desecrate charges.
You cast another totem (you now have 1 Descerate Totem charges), that totem has 3 of it's own Descecrate charges.

Killing off a totem to summon another will give the new totem 3 cast charges again.

Basically, your casts and totem casts have separate charges.

you dont need more than one Desacrate. totem part is irrelevant - it is fun but it is absolutely not needed

you need to get your DD dmg to over 100% mob health (conc effect + fire% passives + fire-pen).

you cast desacrate ONCE, blow entire screen away with chain DD.

detonate dead builds up to this point had one serious weakness - that first corpse to start chain reaction. there were variations of fire trap etc to start it, but fire trap is flat dmg and at higher levels it falls off

desacrate scales linearly same as DD.

this is my DD setup (as you can see plenty of improvement areas still from the gems) and it is enough. once you reach that one-shoot-potential level of the area you are in does not matter at all

btw - biggest looser of this is Flameblast as now Desacrate + DD works better and faster

trap multitrap desecrate seems good