IIQ/IIR: MF Balance and Diminishing Returns guide (v2.2)

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Let's use this formula to calculate a good balancing between IIQ and IIR:
C = (1+(IIQ/100)) * (1+(IIR/100))



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--CONCLUSION--
- Balancing IIQ and IIR increases the drop, as shown in the first graph.


I was bored, so i made the mathemical derivation of your emperical research :)

Assuming, the value c is calculated correctly:

x=IIQ
y=IIR

(just too lazy to write iir iiq all the time)

introducing:
t=x+y -> Its basically the sum of your iir/iiq

C becomes:
c = (1+(t-y)/100)(1+y/100)

dc/dy = 0 (interpretation: find the maximum for c for a given value of t)

-1/100*(1+(t-y)/100) + 1/100*(1+y/100) = 0
-1-t+y/100 + 1 + y/100 = 0
-t+ 2y = 0
t=x+t/2

y = t/2
x = t/2

Interpretation: For a given value t, the maximum for c will be allways if x=y (if your iiq equals your iir)

Where does this shit help me?
If you have to decide, wether you take 350/50 or 300/100, because, if the values of iir and iiq are closer, you get more lot (consider: the sum of iir and iiq should be ca. the same!)
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Last edited by Astarte911 on May 14, 2014, 7:25:27 AM
Thanks both Dulahan and Astarte for your posts!!
- Attack and Spell DPS Calculator (view-thread/977942)
- IIQ/IIR balance guide (view-thread/725812)
eres muy grande Chuca, excelente post
n1 chuca, first time Im seeing this thread, youre doing a great service for the community, ty good sir.
Long time I didn't check this thread. Thanks both Snorkle_uk and borato for your comments!
- Attack and Spell DPS Calculator (view-thread/977942)
- IIQ/IIR balance guide (view-thread/725812)
Excellent presentation of data. You've done the community a great service. <3

Bookmarked.


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nice guide, the graphic helped me a lot
Guide updated to v1.2.

A lot of new runs with new MF values and comments added. Thanks all for your comments!
- Attack and Spell DPS Calculator (view-thread/977942)
- IIQ/IIR balance guide (view-thread/725812)
I always thought that MF is there to drop those high tier uniques which can be sold for tons of exalts. If the main purpose of MF-ing is to find a lot of rares and teleport to the town every few minutes to sell them, or save them for chaos recipe then I am not interested in this at all. Exchanging alts for fusings, or chaoses, then buying exalts with them... is this how you build currency in this game ? It is very lame and it is definitely not for me.
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I always thought that MF is there to drop those high tier uniques which can be sold for tons of exalts.

If you drop it, of course. Would be nice if you read the whole phrase in the whole context, cos I explain it.
Just an example: from the last 20 hi-tier Uniques any guildmate dropped, 17 were with no MF gear. Maybe that Shavronne's Wrappings is the main goal, but not the general main purpose of the system.

- Attack and Spell DPS Calculator (view-thread/977942)
- IIQ/IIR balance guide (view-thread/725812)
Last edited by Chuca79 on Sep 24, 2014, 4:55:08 PM

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