New Tech from GGG- The desync emulator.

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Nemesis5858 wrote:
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Invalesco wrote:
Dude you're a silver supporter, set a better example for the rest of us :(



The community, especially the mods, seem to be taking themselves a touch too seriously.
What is this unreasonable urge to censure negative comments, does it really upset you so much when i kick your 'golden calf'?
Why are the speech nazis so ready to pounce on a bit of thrust and parry in the global chat? We're all 'big boys' here aren't we?



Grow up. 95% of this community is capable of offering feedback in a non childish, non arrogant, non "I'm better than everyone" way.

Why not join up with Kopa and the other children and make your own game that teaches GGG devs how to fix the problems you whine about?

If we refund this guy his supporter money will he go away and annoy another community? I'll chip in if that is the case.

Sad.
" ... to let them know the game isn’t going to be very fair from here on out."
- Qarl
devmoon had a nice desync on his stream Saturday (4:47 mark) during the ladder race. It killed him. I had one that was approximately 5 times worse (3 full screens away before I rubberbanded back into the pack of mobs) the first time I died in a HC race.
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Alternalo wrote:
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Chris wrote:
Brutus's new hook attack actually re-syncs you as it drags you, so it should only improve the sync situation with his fight.


So Brutus is actually the good guy? What a twist! :D

To a degree, he will resync you effectively taking away the most common excuse for death and then kill you...
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Panda413 wrote:
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Nemesis5858 wrote:
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Invalesco wrote:
Dude you're a silver supporter, set a better example for the rest of us :(



The community, especially the mods, seem to be taking themselves a touch too seriously.
What is this unreasonable urge to censure negative comments, does it really upset you so much when i kick your 'golden calf'?
Why are the speech nazis so ready to pounce on a bit of thrust and parry in the global chat? We're all 'big boys' here aren't we?



Grow up. 95% of this community is capable of offering feedback in a non childish, non arrogant, non "I'm better than everyone" way.

Why not join up with Kopa and the other children and make your own game that teaches GGG devs how to fix the problems you whine about?

If we refund this guy his supporter money will he go away and annoy another community? I'll chip in if that is the case.

Sad.


The sad thing, my poor old panda, is that your post only affirms what you would reproach me for stating.
Thats alright, i commend your zeal in setting forth to vanquish this terrible old troll, and i'm sure in time you will settle down and get over yourself. Unless of coarse they make you a moderator....
Bring me my bow of burning gold
Bring me my arrows of desire.....

If i am a troll who is no troll who then is the troll? http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/53626 }:)

'I rise from the ashes of my own defeat, only to be smitten down again...'
- Some poor soul.
Well I believe that the average jaded poster will eventually break down and have the moxie to do what has happened here... provide snide jabs of no actual content, about a real concern. I find it inevitable with any topic that someone deeply cares about, given a population above say 10.

Everyone who is not in that frame of mind will find it off-putting, and everyone else of a similar mindset will find it counter-productive and/or obnoxious.

In either case, perhaps a temporary solution would be to allow players 1 manual resync every 5 minutes or something until a time at which they can sit their whole team down and just focus on desync.

This will at least allow players who recognize that they are not synced, or who are put into a situation where sync is vital, to remedy the situation manually.
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zeto wrote:
Well I believe that the average jaded poster will eventually break down and have the moxie to do what has happened here... provide snide jabs of no actual content, about a real concern. I find it inevitable with any topic that someone deeply cares about, given a population above say 10.

Everyone who is not in that frame of mind will find it off-putting, and everyone else of a similar mindset will find it counter-productive and/or obnoxious.

In either case, perhaps a temporary solution would be to allow players 1 manual resync every 5 minutes or something until a time at which they can sit their whole team down and just focus on desync.

This will at least allow players who recognize that they are not synced, or who are put into a situation where sync is vital, to remedy the situation manually.


Do you think it likely that GGG will acquiesce to such a solution? I seems to be the most viable at this point, if it is indeed possible. I think some of the desync problems occur, atleast for ranged classes, with the resyncing of the auto-targeting system, as i have mentioned before.
The resync time would have to be 'on demand' though, instead of a given interval.

Your summation of my response seems rather lopsided considering Charan's and Panda's posts; i only kicked their golden calf a little. I did not attack them personally.
Yet they will stride out, sword in hand to smite down this old troll, who turns out to be no troll after all.
(Read all of Charans posts and tell me who is back-peddling).
Now if i gently parry their feeble thrusts, i am to be branded the transgressor?
Bring me my bow of burning gold
Bring me my arrows of desire.....

If i am a troll who is no troll who then is the troll? http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/53626 }:)

'I rise from the ashes of my own defeat, only to be smitten down again...'
- Some poor soul.
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Nemesis5858 wrote:
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zeto wrote:
Well I believe that the average jaded poster will eventually break down and have the moxie to do what has happened here... provide snide jabs of no actual content, about a real concern. I find it inevitable with any topic that someone deeply cares about, given a population above say 10.

Everyone who is not in that frame of mind will find it off-putting, and everyone else of a similar mindset will find it counter-productive and/or obnoxious.

In either case, perhaps a temporary solution would be to allow players 1 manual resync every 5 minutes or something until a time at which they can sit their whole team down and just focus on desync.

This will at least allow players who recognize that they are not synced, or who are put into a situation where sync is vital, to remedy the situation manually.


Do you think it likely that GGG will acquiesce to such a solution? I seems to be the most viable at this point, if it is indeed possible. I think some of the desync problems occur, atleast for ranged classes, with the resyncing of the auto-targeting system, as i have mentioned before.
The resync time would have to be 'on demand' though, instead of a given interval.

Your summation of my response seems rather lopsided considering Charan's and Panda's posts; i only kicked their golden calf a little. I did not attack them personally.
Yet they will stride out, sword in hand to smite down this old troll, who turns out to be no troll after all.
(Read all of Charans posts and tell me who is back-peddling).
Now if i gently parry their feeble thrusts, i am to be branded the transgressor?



I don't think anyone should be discussing desync in this thread. Your opening post was childish and the discussion about desync should be reserved for a more professional post.

There is no reason this garbage thread should still be on the front page.
" ... to let them know the game isn’t going to be very fair from here on out."
- Qarl
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/43635

I am SO glad someone has resurrected this thread, because it gives me all the licence in the world to shut this one. Follow the link for a far superior, instructive discussion on the desync issue.

Should have done this in the first place, but if I've any character flaw, it's in indulging people their pettiness a little too much.
If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.

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Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Oct 15, 2012, 8:44:08 PM
Leaving this here after the lock if someone would like to read about lag and client side prediction theory:

http://www.gabrielgambetta.com/?p=11

http://www.gabrielgambetta.com/?p=22

http://www.gabrielgambetta.com/?p=63
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