The secrets/mysteries of RNG cloud and Why you should not ever stop playing after a godly drop. Ep3

EP3:

Looks like some lucky clouds/lucky days/Streaks can be explained by the fact there has been a penalty on drops.

Sometimes it's a penalty on an area drop : remember when you kept having blues and some rares on an areas and instantly got great uniques and lot of rares when you changed the area?

Sometimes it's a penalty on drop because you got were too fast and you are asking too much from the system.
This last penalty is not available on Rampage:
"It's also worth noting that there will be no penalty to loot in this mode, so just because you're killing faster and killing more enemies, doesn't mean GGG will cut down your item drops. In fact, it stands to reason you'll get even more loot for keeping your Rampage alive as long as possible"

Keep your eyes open and understand the matrix :)




Update 2: WAT?! ( This guy 6Linked like five items during a single week)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frVTClyxxUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa1CrOytfb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4wCWrdGhV8


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Update with episode 2 ( PAGE 11 )

Mysteries of RNG, season 2 :

Spoiler

The most curious event i met in my journey for the discovery of RNG was : Whenever i killed a monster with my swords and sometimes my magic, the monster never dropped an Amethyst ring, legends say, it's an item ( a base item ) that can be found easily in the caves of a distance world called Anarchy, an elder said you can find them aswell in a distance world called The Onslaught.

Weither this story is a legend or not, i'v always been convinced that a good RNG CLOUD might help me find the impossible. Today a caravan came from a nearly village ( Hardcore ) reported about a UNIQUE droping, a UNIQUE amethyst ring, i am going there today, it's a dangerous road but i am determined, only futur will tell me if i will reach that place and see that ring.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/529698 ( Unique amethyst on Standard )

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/475284/page/91 last coment
and http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/475284/page/92 ( Unique amethyst on Standard )

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So unique drops do not depend of white base items + iir combinasion it seems, that would explain the unique map drops at lunaris, when we know that only 66 maps can drop outside of maps.

SO it might be as following :

-Base items droping in an area. ( does not matter)
-Stack IIR and attract rng cloud by any way you can.

=> RNG giving yo uniques when it feels doing it, whatever the area you are in, providing that the monster level area match the unique level droping required.




Season_1
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Hello,


I am still trying to understand how RNG works, the only viable( or at least, satisfying because it cannot be verified) suggestions i found is :


RNG is a cloud that divide its lucky drops from a player to another player, it can give a player some kind of gems and another player some other kind, i think the purpose is to promote trading.

Have you ever experiencing having a specific gem drop for a char all the way from level 1 to merc ? And another kind of drop for another char ? I had for a char a lightning warp drop EACH day, yet in the other side another char would get ANOTHER gem keep droping...

Have you ever experiencing getting the same unique in a row ( because you had nice iir ofc ) ?
One day, i saw a Wanderlust dropping 3 times on the same instance ( mud ).

IMO, the RNG cloud divide its treasures by real random numbers but it contains 2 important things :

1 ) Attraction for iir.
2 ) Santa Claus spirit.



Everybody knows about stacking iir and iiq, but have you ever tried to abuse the spirit of rng ?


It's simple :


If you ever get a nice/insane drop( Mirror, Shavronnes, Soul taker.. ) = DO NOT STOP PLAYING! Go find the similar drop in the next hour, the cloud favor is maybe still here.



Example : This guy found 2X Soul takers, withing 2 hours.

http://www.twitch.tv/hendrixonfire/c/2577210

I bet if someone of you finds a mirror, he would find another one if he keeps playin the same day.


Hard to believe hah ? Well those are just presumptions. Debate.


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Update : We can divide clouds by 2.

1) The short clouds : Currencies clouds / Uniques clouds.
2) Long clouds, clouds specific to one char( 1 account ? ) : Gems clouds.

There are more informations on the thread than on the original post if you want to check.
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Last edited by Inexium on Aug 8, 2014, 4:20:49 AM
I'll admit that it sometimes seems that way when playing.

But really, it's more than likely just confirmation bias/selective memory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias





Or maybe they designed this game like you say...Gifts from above...Like your sig :p
Last edited by Bapes on Sep 8, 2013, 4:31:21 AM
Tons of people have posted about similar patterns occurring in similar situations.

I have even experienced it myself (and yes, I did know about confirmation bias beforehand and tried very much to adjust for it).

I definitely think that a review of the RNG system that GGG is using would be beneficial to the state of the game, after other more important priorities are dealt with (for example, desync).

Who knows, they might find something in their code...
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Last edited by adghar on Sep 8, 2013, 4:32:57 AM
I'll be honest: one of my last character took four chaos in three different istances (all at normal, act one). First one, then two, then one again.

And this was like the second time I've had ever seen a chaos orb

i like this game. i mean have you seen how powerful is the barbarian
Yeah the last time I played I was finding chaos, chroms and rares like nothing else, then got given a searing touch to boot. Compared to what I remember from the session before that, finding nothing but scrolls and maybe 3 rares in a half hour, this little theory does seem possible. Though maybe it was a welcome back gift after having not played in a week or two.
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Last edited by Wooser69 on Sep 8, 2013, 4:38:09 AM
I've only found 1 mirror.

Omg PoE RNG sucks I quit.
double.
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Last edited by Inexium on Sep 8, 2013, 4:51:15 AM
Thanks !


It seems only Bapes and Adghar read the topic, thanks! ( and ignore the trolls ;o)


@MunstaMunch: (Edited by myself)

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Bapes wrote:
I'll admit that it sometimes seems that way when playing.

But really, it's more than likely just confirmation bias/selective memory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias





Or maybe they designed this game like you say...Gifts from above...Like your sig :p


Maybe! Yeah maybe!


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adghar wrote:
Tons of people have posted about similar patterns occurring in similar situations.



Oh really ? Where did you see that ? It's teh first time i read it.


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Wooser69 wrote:
Yeah the last time I played I was finding chaos, chroms and rares like nothing else, then got given a searing touch to boot. Compared to what I remember from the session before that, finding nothing but scrolls and maybe 3 rares in a half hour, this little theory does seem possible. Though maybe it was a welcome back gift after having not played in a week or two.



This is quite interesting to notice aswell,


I think we can add a third thing for RNG CLOUD:

- It does not want to favor someone too much! ( at least it tries )

Everybody has experienced that fact, of getting better drops when stoping poe for a Week/few days.

I might edit my op actually.



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Last edited by Inexium on Aug 8, 2014, 4:22:51 AM
its not intended... the RNG they are using has a bad bad seed,,,''


try to craft potions... they will roll same mod alt after alt... I had some roll 10 times in a row... and stopped spamming alts on them all together since its not randomized well, i just alt and do something else till the seed is refreshed..

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