PoE Vs Diablo 3 new expansion

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Ranjin33 wrote:

Make life/armor base mele build that will be viable. Do you even know what is the problem with mele chars? You can have 5k hp and 10k+ armor and get destroyed in 2-3 hits.

Do you really have a melee with 5k health/10k armor that dies in 2-3 hits? My Mara only has 4k health and it felt like that took a lot of work to get. He does pretty well in the end game but then again I haven't done maps above 72 with him yet so can't tell if he will do just as good or not.

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fsg wrote:

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Ranjin33 wrote:

This looks to me like posts on facebook that little girls make to fish for attention.

Make life/armor base mele build that will be viable. Do you even know what is the problem with mele chars? You can have 5k hp and 10k+ armor and get destroyed in 2-3 hits. So the "mele problem" isnt in the build, its in game mechanics.

these mechanics you refer to as "problems" are one of the reasons i actually play the game. knowing that theres always something out there that can instagib me good makes it all more interesting, especially in hc.

and most of these situations were you actually get 1, 2 or 3 hit, you could have avoided if you just had your granite and endurance charges up, if shit was blinded, or if you had your AA running. you cant just stack life and armor and go faceroll, get over it.

and yes i play melee among other characters in onslaught, and yes i play life based melee


and 10k armor? that is like CI armor, get more.

So, let s stack +25k armor, let s stack +5k life(can t go more without kaoms , let s stack +80% resist... and die from boreness because your build is boring. Great gameplay

The reason why GGG nerfed life was to create a better build diversity. It failed because now people just create CI+shav builds.

Another reason was, ggg wanted people to stack dps + armor instead of just life. It also failed because 10K armor is still paper shit.

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iamstryker wrote:

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Ranjin33 wrote:

Make life/armor base mele build that will be viable. Do you even know what is the problem with mele chars? You can have 5k hp and 10k+ armor and get destroyed in 2-3 hits.

Do you really have a melee with 5k health/10k armor that dies in 2-3 hits? My Mara only has 4k health and it felt like that took a lot of work to get. He does pretty well in the end game but then again I haven't done maps above 72 with him yet so can't tell if he will do just as good or not.

in 75-77 maps with mods like slow regen and mobs casting Vulnerability you will/can get 1 shooted without perfect items. the problem is visibility, sometime in groupe you can t see coming the curse on you because the screen is a cluster fuck of effect and explosions.

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lolozori wrote:

So, let s stack +25k armor, let s stack +5k life(can t go more without kaoms , let s stack +80% resist... and die from boreness because your build is boring. Great gameplay

whine whine whine. you have solutions, but you think the solutions are "boring", so the game is broken, right?

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Startkabels wrote:

I actually forgot the new gameplay that also will be introduced: Lootruns. Go check it out.

So yes if you want to find gear instead of buying it I would go and play the D3 expansion instead of PoE in it's current state if I were you. PoE is a random slot machine.

I played the game for 8 months ... this is the biggest sack of lies ever, d3 is chock full of rmt and you know it. Also, you dont find any legendaries in the game that are of any use. Or rares. At all. EVERY arpg is a friggin slot machine, the games are based on rng ffs!

oh and fyi, lootruns = copy of poe map system. lmao

That their uniques are absolute trash ... this is one of their main BIG concerns that they are trying to address in the expansion, there even was a dev blog about it admitting itemisation is fucking horrible, and they are going to fail, because they are just bandaiding instead of redesigning from the ground up. The fact all your damage STILL scales off the weapon and the fact you can only have 6 skills at a time with no points, no tree of any sort, means itemisation and customisation is still dead. Dead as dead I tell ya! Theres no paragon cap sure, but thats only because its account wide now. There is an actual cap to how many paragon points you can allocate. And ironically, it cant promote build diversity if everyone can reach 500 str 50ms 10crit 25ias from paragon as they are capped but having points to stat them all isnt. That is so broken its not even funny. Everyone will be the same, just as before. Every monk had 483 dex at level 60/100 and around 3k dex from gear. EVERY MONK.

Unlike poe, where you can stat a lot of crit / dmg but then you gimp out on defenses for example, a very crude, simplistic and basic breakdown of a tree as example but it gets the point accross.

POE has variety in its builds, EB or mana or BM, CI or lowlife or ES / CI, or pure vita, can go evasion or armor. And keystones that alter your build drastically. Thats just **per one build** variety lol. Then you can stat your skill tree as you please, you cant do this with d3, it will pigeonhole you into 3 defensive and 2 offensive and 1 utility skills and 1 defensive / 2 damage passives 99% of the time.

Those uniques they showed .... theyre just a (stupidly massive lol) bump up in dps to match the new monsters ridiculous hp in mp10 modes, and the worst part is you will still need high dps socketed cd life leech items because everything scales off the weapon and there are no skill points / out of item modifiers that can let you bypass this. The new 'game changing uniques' are a crock of shite, you can summon a hydra on kill? LOL why would i need it on kill, probably has some low proc rate, and just like all other leggy procs, is unruned variant which has its own dmg and doesnt scale off your dmg. Again, theres a hot topic on this on the ROS discussion subforum with all fans saying the same thing: bandaid fixes that wont change builds or bring any diversity.

Having said that, the new class, monsters, weapons, skills, locations and cinematics look cool :P But then again that is today's Blizzard - it feels more like a high budget special effects movie than an actual game (including the fact the story being total crap too, just like most movies - a special effects showcase and nothing else)

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lolozori wrote:

So, let s stack +25k armor, let s stack +5k life(can t go more without kaoms , let s stack +80% resist... and die from boreness because your build is boring. Great gameplay

why would the build be boring? Youre talking nonsense.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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lolozori wrote:

So, let s stack +25k armor, let s stack +5k life(can t go more without kaoms , let s stack +80% resist... and die from boreness because your build is boring. Great gameplay

why would the build be boring? Youre talking nonsense.

Think about it, i will give you some hints:

-no build diversity aka path of kaom s heart aka every people play the same shit
-not being able to choose dps instead of defense
-not being able to experiment something different and making it viable in maps
-not being able to play self found without the need to get the +50 ex OP uniq that make u not die

GGG nerfed life nods and made the mobs damages lower so you could actualy take armor instead of life, but this is not working because armor is not that great in high level maps.

by the way this game is much better than D3

Don't worry guize Dumpster3 : Reaper Of Wallets coming soon .

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lolozori wrote:

-no build diversity aka path of kaom s heart aka every people play the same shit hmmm you are right to a certain point about stacking of hp nodes in vita builds, but its not as bad as you make it seem, you can still have some variety between skill trees, the thing is the actual variety comes in the form of being able to build around one skill PER build, unlike d3 where every barb and monk and wd is the same with 5/6 skills and 3 passives being identical, and all the same amount of hp and armor and res at end game ... literally everyone is the friggin same in that game. 3000 main stat, 1000 armor 600AR 2xxk dps .... EVERYONE LOL
-not being able to choose dps instead of defense I think the fact you can get more than enough dps from gems and items and auras speaks for itself, its a GOOD thing, although yes I too would like the ability to take more offensive passives, I have always suggested we get 2 points / level instead of just 1
-not being able to experiment something different and making it viable in maps dude .... practically every skill in the game can be made viable for maps, whether it can faceroll 77 maps is another story. Fx, there are firetrap, beartrap, tempest shield, lightning warp builds, etc that do well in medium maps and TS can do well in all maps.
-not being able to play self found without the need to get the +50 ex OP uniq that make u not die You dont need the 50ex build to enjoy the game, and I enjoy the challenge this game provides

GGG nerfed life nods and made the mobs damages lower so you could actualy take armor instead of life, but this is not working because armor is not that great in high level maps. Armor is fantastic, you just dont invest in it, and its not easy to invest in it, admittedly. But when you can reduce a kole or blacksmith hit to practically nothing, its hilarious people say armor is crap. Search for 'arctic anvil' build on YT.

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