0.11.4 patch - 2 questions

1 - As this is going to be a very large patch & with the amount of fragmentation in the files from previous patches, would it be better in the long run to do a total re-download of the game client & start fresh or would that be redundant?

2 - My OS is win8 & the game is "INSTALLED" on my computer. To remove the game I have to use add/remove to uninstall it. This install was done automatically when I first D/L'ed the game.
Is there a way to run POE without it being "INSTALLED"? Can I run it from another drive or must it be "INSTALLED" to function properly?


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1 - As this is going to be a very large patch & with the amount of fragmentation in the files from previous patches, would it be better in the long run to do a total re-download of the game client & start fresh or would that be redundant?

2 - My OS is win8 & the game is "INSTALLED" on my computer. To remove the game I have to use add/remove to uninstall it. This install was done automatically when I first D/L'ed the game.
Is there a way to run POE without it being "INSTALLED"? Can I run it from another drive or must it be "INSTALLED" to function properly?




Hey there!

1) If you don't have any issues with bandwidth restrictions, deleting the content.ggpk file and performing a full re-download would be ideal. Edit by Chris: Please don't do this, it'll just cost us a lot of money. It's fine to just let it patch normally, but if everyone downloads an extra few gigabytes it adds up to tens of thousands of dollars for us.

2) Yes, you can run the game from any HDD and it doesn't have to be 'installed'.
On my computer at home, I copied the folder over from my slave HDD and never actually 'installed' it and it works fine, so you should be good! :)
Last edited by Chris on August 19, 2013 11:56 PM
WOW now that's a FAST reply, love how GGG works.

I'll uninstall the game and delete that file as soon as the patch hits and redownload the game.

Thanks.
Henry is the best.
If I have a SSD with PoE on it, it does not matter if the PoE files are fragmented or redownloaded - right? (except maybe with used space, which is not a problem)
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Caladaris wrote:
If I have a SSD with PoE on it, it does not matter if the PoE files are fragmented or redownloaded - right? (except maybe with used space, which is not a problem)


even on an ssd you can get better performance by defragmenting your content file. We aren't taking about defragmenting the whole drive, just using the special ggpk defragmenter application.

the benefits of doing that on an ssd are much lower than on a regular mechanical drive however.
Last edited by Drakier on August 20, 2013 2:34 PM
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Caladaris wrote:
If I have a SSD with PoE on it, it does not matter if the PoE files are fragmented or redownloaded - right? (except maybe with used space, which is not a problem)


even on an ssd you can get better performance by defragmenting your content for. We aren't taking about defragmenting the whole drive, just using the special ggpk defragmenter application.

the benefits of doing that on an ssd are much lower than on a regular mechanical drive however.


This is wrong on every level, do not ever defragment SSD drives! The location of data on SSD is irrelevant retrieval is exactly the same no matter where it is physically located.
Last edited by 2girlz1cup on August 18, 2013 11:49 AM
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2girlz1cup wrote:
This is wrong on every level, do not ever defragment SSD drives! The location of data on SSD is irrelevant retrieval is exactly the same no matter where it is physically located.


What your saying is inaccurate, since sequential reads are faster than random reads. The SSD firmware has no idea about GGPK file format, so it can get all the little packed files out quicker when they are all in a row because they are defragmented with the GGPK Defragmenter.
Last edited by ionface on August 18, 2013 12:41 PM
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2girlz1cup wrote:
This is wrong on every level, do not ever defragment SSD drives! The location of data on SSD is irrelevant retrieval is exactly the same no matter where it is physically located.


You (like many other people) misread what I wrote. I specifically said we are NOT defragmenting the whole drive here. I am talking about using the special "Content.ggpk defragmenter" application. This is NOT a disk defragmentation tool. The purpose of this application is to compress the size of the Content.ggpk file and re-location internal files sequentially and together.

The Content.ggpk file is an "archive" format. It is a file which contains one to many internal files. This is similar to Zip/Rar/7z/gz/tar/etc and many other archive formats. Only in this case, the format is somewhat specific to the Content.ggpk file. During patching, these internal files get moved, deleted, re-written, etc. In the process, empty space gets created, and files get split internally into different areas of the archive.

The ggpk defragmenter re-writes the content.ggpk file but puts all the files sequentially and puts all the parts of the file together. This removes all the wasted space inside the archive as well as ensuring that the read of the file from within the archive is achieved with 1 single block read (or at least sequentially) rather than having to jump around inside of the archive to get all the pieces and stitch them together.
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Henry_GGG wrote:
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1 - As this is going to be a very large patch & with the amount of fragmentation in the files from previous patches, would it be better in the long run to do a total re-download of the game client & start fresh or would that be redundant?

2 - My OS is win8 & the game is "INSTALLED" on my computer. To remove the game I have to use add/remove to uninstall it. This install was done automatically when I first D/L'ed the game.
Is there a way to run POE without it being "INSTALLED"? Can I run it from another drive or must it be "INSTALLED" to function properly?




Hey there!

1) If you don't have any issues with bandwidth restrictions, deleting the content.ggpk file and performing a full re-download would be ideal. Edit by Chris: Please don't do this, it'll just cost us a lot of money. It's fine to just let it patch normally, but if everyone downloads an extra few gigabytes it adds up to tens of thousands of dollars for us.

2) Yes, you can run the game from any HDD and it doesn't have to be 'installed'.
On my computer at home, I copied the folder over from my slave HDD and never actually 'installed' it and it works fine, so you should be good! :)


Is the price you pay per GB time sensitive? Based on recent posts I'm expecting it go up while I'm sleeping. My two download times would be in the morning before work (beginning at ~1000 GMT) or when I get home (~2200 GMT).

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