Lv96 Poutsos' Flicker Nuke - Outdated

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GoranH wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Charisma isnt worth points definetely. You have so many great options for damage and/or mana. Why do you want that shitty aura cluster (Charisma)? Take Heartseeker & Frenzy charge, or Power Charge + Deep Wisdom since you already spent some points on path to witch ES nodes... However, my personal opinion is that you put too many points into ES.

Well I was wondering how much that RRRRGB I believe Regali costed ya?

Anyhow. I got currently 5.2k ES with disc... 4k without it. So... trust me, that's not enough ES... but my gear is to blame.

Also, don't really feel like dmg is the problem, yeah sure can use more but 30-40k Reave for parties is doing fine for me. Problem is that I have 126 mana left after hatred and discp. So that's why I said that, that's not enough. I can't flicker properly as my 5L flicker takes 68 mana and it's a 5L and 16/20 so not full lvl. To flicker properly atm I have to take off my disc which is awful. 15% reduced mana should be enough to aleviate that I believe.

It costed me 25 exalteds for chest itself + slightly over 1k chromatics to recolour it.
However, i had great luck both in purchasing chest pretty cheap and recolouring into that combination.
To be honest, RRRRGB isnt the best setup for me. RRRGBB would give me 10% more DPS, and it is easier to make. I wanted to get RRRGBB, but i dont want to reroll mine combination, of course :). RRRRGB, despite being slightly weaker for setup with MF gems, is much stronger without MF gems, if i ever choose to do so (hard map, etc).

If you need more mana, you should go for Deep Wisdom notable passive. You can also try going Uwavering Stance and Arcane Efficiency. You can try my build, too. It provides huge options for mana management. If you find you reserve too much mana, templar's aura cluster is at hand. However, my build strongly lacks points, so it lacks ES. I have 5800 ES ATM, both because i dont have many ES passives and because i wear low-ES MF gear. I find it enough for Dominus, and for most (if not all) low and mid level maps. I didnt played 74+ maps, though, so i cant say for sure. I dont use any mana passives, because with IR IQ gems flicker costs relatively cheap. I should have several extra points to spend to use combat gems....

And if you choose to play in party, your power will be greatly diminished. No mater what skill you chose - you will suck comparing to solo play.

I'm so done with GGG. They changed the DPS display to average damage =.=

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Xymordos wrote:

I'm so done with GGG. They changed the DPS display to average damage =.=

Is it so hard to divide average damage on attack time? For flicker, average damage is pretty important to know.

Hey guys,Most quetions that asked have already been answered,that means less typing for me :P
Leveled to 92.Nothing crazy just picked up +30 inteeligence.Didnt like it much.When i level again i ll specc out of that and either take fening,or also spec out of aspect of the panther again and take the heartseeker.It is a quetion of 40%physical+13% speed vs 70% multiplier.I think i ll take the multiplier.That will be the final damage boosts i ll ever take,cause anything more with this dagger will kill me on reflect.
About patch,Xymordos,this is a GOOD change for us flickers.If you want to know th DPS just take that averange damage and multiply it with attack speed.It is a great change however because damage per hit is MORE IMORTANT on flicker than attack speed.I ve said that many times,but lot's of ppl just wanna increased their tooltip,and they emphasize alot on speed since it increases more the tooltip than damage.However avarange damage is more important on flicker.Sure speed helps as well,but not nearly as much.I am too bored to change the screesnhots for level 92 now,since nothing much changed.I ll do it on next level up propably.Peace

Yeah, I agree it'll be good for people that are leveling. My only goal on this char was to boost the tooltip :P

Was planning to try and hit 1million dps by stacking pure IAS..):

So i've met a lot of ppl who have tried to make this build, agreed it was one of the most fun builds until LVL 68, where they hit a brick wall and just could not proceed further even with the TOP END gear (mirrored daggers and ES armours) after transitioning into CI.

They said this build is only fully functional after lvl 85 or so.

I was wondering if this is true, because im lvl 58 atm and are having a bit of trouble keeping up with mana especially and defences.

Did you have problems around lvl 68 when u transitioned to CI as well or did you use another method?

i want some feedback on this thanks guys! :)

PS: did anyone recently did a transition into CI and just was not able to get frenzy charges cuz you couldnt 1 hit kill them ?

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bowen123 wrote:

So i've met a lot of ppl who have tried to make this build, agreed it was one of the most fun builds until LVL 68, where they hit a brick wall and just could not proceed further even with the TOP END gear (mirrored daggers and ES armours) after transitioning into CI.

They said this build is only fully functional after lvl 85 or so.

I was wondering if this is true, because im lvl 58 atm and are having a bit of trouble keeping up with mana especially and defences.

Did you have problems around lvl 68 when u transitioned to CI as well or did you use another method?

i want some feedback on this thanks guys! :)

PS: did anyone recently did a transition into CI and just was not able to get frenzy charges cuz you couldnt 1 hit kill them ?

There is no brick wall, if your gear is correct and you take most valuable passives first. Especially - in Poutsos build, as he takes shorter dexterity path to Vaal Pact.
Rule of thumb - keystones first, all other - later. Damage/ES first, critical chance/multiplier - later.
If you dagger is proper, if you have 5-L at least, you wont face great trouble. People who meet brick walls, are doing so because of lack of resistances, ES, chosing wrong passives, chosing wrong dagger, etc...

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bowen123 wrote:

So i've met a lot of ppl who have tried to make this build, agreed it was one of the most fun builds until LVL 68, where they hit a brick wall and just could not proceed further even with the TOP END gear (mirrored daggers and ES armours) after transitioning into CI.

They said this build is only fully functional after lvl 85 or so.

I was wondering if this is true, because im lvl 58 atm and are having a bit of trouble keeping up with mana especially and defences.

Did you have problems around lvl 68 when u transitioned to CI as well or did you use another method?

i want some feedback on this thanks guys! :)

PS: did anyone recently did a transition into CI and just was not able to get frenzy charges cuz you couldnt 1 hit kill them ?

So... first things first. It said there not recommended for first chars, without gameplay experience etc. So... It was my first char, never played PoE prior to choosing this build. Just looked at viable end game build, liked the dps, clear speed and gameplay looked fun and addictive. So noticed it had trouble with phys reflect, and couldn't do blood magic but oh well. Now reflect is doable, and there are other thingies that can be hard for this build (when not using flicker, ranged mobs are a pain for example). But all in all, it's a great build.

Now not to make this too long... I did have massive problems at ~65, my gear sucked, didn't know how much res are important, didn't take any life nodes... and was beating bosses by spamming portals and hitting them with viper strikes. >.> Amounted like over 400 deaths. Awful... but I endured through that (that was my experience, and it was one of a newbie, and that's just bad playing). Still wouldn't recommend this for first time build... Anyhow.

NO, don't need mirroed daggers or ES chests to make this build work. Here's my current gear and up to this point spent like maybe bit less than 15exalts for the whole gear, current and leveling... including flasks etc.


Granted I got some items here cheap, but yeah. And I find that my build is fully functional. Am lvl 86 atm. Two months in. It's fully functional after CI transition if you got good dagger, enough ES, 5L and full res. Now about those mirrored stuff. You can say shavs, kaoms, soul take is super pricey. Truth is, mirrored gear is more expensive. But... it's better than those uniques for the "build", way better. So thing is, this build scales extremelly good. That mirrored shield/6L chest will improve you defenses (offense), and that mirrored dagger will make your dps go through the roof... Is it worth it, up to you. But that's endgame. Thing that's still great.

Game forces you in a way to try out different builds, as leveling gets really slow after a point even if there's end game content. Now even with all those godly gear, sole nature of flicker is super fun. Melting stuff, without eye sore of discharge, crap on screen and perf drops of sparks, summoners.. Though it can be dizzy. And it's not just join map, and just use left flick... several things to pay attention to, and use... Now I can go on and on. But what poutsos said on first page about build, still stands.

Lsatly, yes you need to be able to keep those charges up, hence you need good daggers (dammage). That's why (one of reasons) flicker is amazing solo, but it's greatness greatly fades with each party member added. But there's frenzy/double strike/reave, maybe even cyclone if you somehow got mana.

My current biggest issues, getting frozen, shocked, ranged mobs on +3/4 projectiles, more ES to sustain burst dmg. But those can be circumvented mostly. Then there's getting crit chance up for consistency, and accuracy as well. All is interesting for me.

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bowen123 wrote:

So i've met a lot of ppl who have tried to make this build, agreed it was one of the most fun builds until LVL 68, where they hit a brick wall and just could not proceed further even with the TOP END gear (mirrored daggers and ES armours) after transitioning into CI.

They said this build is only fully functional after lvl 85 or so.

I was wondering if this is true, because im lvl 58 atm and are having a bit of trouble keeping up with mana especially and defences.

Did you have problems around lvl 68 when u transitioned to CI as well or did you use another method?

i want some feedback on this thanks guys! :)

PS: did anyone recently did a transition into CI and just was not able to get frenzy charges cuz you couldnt 1 hit kill them ?

As long as gear and passives are right, you should be perfectly fine going to CI. I have 3k ES and managed to get to level85 without Vaal Pact at all.

is this build stil workin with the nerf on FS ?