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Adultery wrote:

the passive tree i linked is a 'core'

after that, you might need more ES nodes to survive, you might need one or two all resist nodes, you might want more mana etc.

this is my actual passive tree at level 85. i have 6.1k ES right now with a low-end ES chest and my gloves/boots don't have any ES on them at all. once i get Rainbowstrides and roll higher ES on my chest, i'll take away those ES nodes + that 10 int node, and get Prestidigitation.

lvl20 Reduced Mana needs 109 strength, and i have 118 with 1x 30 strength node, 1x 10 strength node and a 44 strength ring.

a 45 strength ring/belt would allow you to drop that 10 strength node.

you can get up to 35 strength on a Heavy Belt's implicit roll, you would need another 45 strength on its explicit roll to alleviate those strength nodes


Of course, I understand the need for strength. I'm just saying that you could use this alternate pathing:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBAW8C_gQHB2MMfRB7EH8RLxFQFVAV1xZAFr8XVBpsHwIigSepKU8rCiy_LR82xTvhPI5Cw0NjRwZMs1AwVmNXK1j1XfJe-l8qX2pjQ2ZPZp5tGXBScNVxTX5Zf8aBSYRIhX2GrofbiEKLeow2jjyOZI9Gj_qZmprPna6dxJ6hoqOnCKcrr5uyOLTFtve2-rcxuJO71r46wFHAVMEAwcXB88Lsw23GnteG2CTbGtte2-ffhOL344TkIuaB62Pr5Ovu7BjyHfLh8-r1S_em_Ks=

This trades the 2 +10 int and 1 +10 strength nodes you selected on the way to the shadow tree for the power charge duration node and the +30 strength node near inner force. The power charge duration node ties you into the shadow tree so you can respec out of those 3 +10 attribute nodes. Two passive points for +30 strength and power charge duration vs 3 points for +20 int and +10 strength. I would personally make that trade.
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dessloc wrote:
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Adultery wrote:

the passive tree i linked is a 'core'

after that, you might need more ES nodes to survive, you might need one or two all resist nodes, you might want more mana etc.

this is my actual passive tree at level 85. i have 6.1k ES right now with a low-end ES chest and my gloves/boots don't have any ES on them at all. once i get Rainbowstrides and roll higher ES on my chest, i'll take away those ES nodes + that 10 int node, and get Prestidigitation.

lvl20 Reduced Mana needs 109 strength, and i have 118 with 1x 30 strength node, 1x 10 strength node and a 44 strength ring.

a 45 strength ring/belt would allow you to drop that 10 strength node.

you can get up to 35 strength on a Heavy Belt's implicit roll, you would need another 45 strength on its explicit roll to alleviate those strength nodes


Of course, I understand the need for strength. I'm just saying that you could use this alternate pathing:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBAW8C_gQHB2MMfRB7EH8RLxFQFVAV1xZAFr8XVBpsHwIigSepKU8rCiy_LR82xTvhPI5Cw0NjRwZMs1AwVmNXK1j1XfJe-l8qX2pjQ2ZPZp5tGXBScNVxTX5Zf8aBSYRIhX2GrofbiEKLeow2jjyOZI9Gj_qZmprPna6dxJ6hoqOnCKcrr5uyOLTFtve2-rcxuJO71r46wFHAVMEAwcXB88Lsw23GnteG2CTbGtte2-ffhOL344TkIuaB62Pr5Ovu7BjyHfLh8-r1S_em_Ks=

This trades the 2 +10 int and 1 +10 strength nodes you selected on the way to the shadow tree for the power charge duration node and the +30 strength node near inner force. The power charge duration node ties you into the shadow tree so you can respec out of those 3 +10 attribute nodes. Two passive points for +30 strength and power charge duration vs 3 points for +20 int and +10 strength. I would personally make that trade.

well, that is a good alternative for people who aren't in my position, but if i follow your route, i lose 4% energy shield for power charge duration and some strength i don't need

edit:it's freeing up 4 nodes, and i have to use 2 of those to re-route. but those 2 extra passives are better than 4% ES. i was thinking about that re-route for a while, it's good to have a different brain on the matter.

edit2: i confused myself. it's freeing up 3 nodes and re-using 2 of them.
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Last edited by _wuv_#1477 on May 13, 2013, 5:45:16 PM
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Adultery wrote:

edit2: i confused myself. it's freeing up 3 nodes and re-using 2 of them.


Yep, you got it. You get net +20 strength + power charge duration from the new pathing at the expense of 2 +10 int nodes and also get an extra passive point to put into ES or anywhere else you see fit.
Last edited by dessloc#7718 on May 13, 2013, 11:24:15 PM
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dessloc wrote:
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Adultery wrote:

edit2: i confused myself. it's freeing up 3 nodes and re-using 2 of them.


Yep, you got it. You get net +20 strength + power charge duration from the new pathing at the expense of 2 +10 int nodes and also get an extra passive point to put into ES or anywhere else you see fit.


i did another change: here.

it alleviates all strength problems as far as i know. i have 112 strength without any help from gear.

edit: scratch that, i forgot about Eye of Chayula's +20 attributes
you will need at least 17+ attributes on your Eye
"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
Last edited by _wuv_#1477 on May 15, 2013, 1:16:55 AM
I changed some things to add Vaal Pact with the same amount of nodes


Edit: Removed blood thirst and str node (still get 104 str from tree) to add Elemental adaptation. Even without blood thirst there's plenty of crit chance to get the ball rolling with power on crit charges. After charges are up, 45% is not so much.
Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAVysHY-aBwFQRULvWO-Hi920ZpystH8HzjjyLekyzgh4XVAQHUDCIQiKBHwLbXvIdwcWeoTbF6-TsGCy_r5vYJF8qw22P-oaupwhe-tvnFdfa3biTna78q0cG14YMfevuGmxfasLsVmMQfyj65CK0xfLhxp6CxylPjmQrCmNDQYeFfew496bBAOOEergWQDrYtvrbGohrwFGuk2aeTdgQe7b38-pw1So4wBpxTYx29UsRLxa_cFJd8lnzms--OkLDrKpDY9-EJ-23MfPdWPWdxA==
Berek's Grip Ice Spear
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/780707
Budget Magicfind and/or Hardcore Flame Totem
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211543
Last edited by Necrogue#4186 on May 15, 2013, 3:15:23 AM
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Necrogue wrote:
I changed some things to add Vaal Pact with the same amount of nodes


Edit: Removed blood thirst and str node (still get 104 str from tree) to add Elemental adaptation. Even without blood thirst there's plenty of crit chance to get the ball rolling with power on crit charges. After charges are up, 45% is not so much.
Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMAVysHY-aBwFQRULvWO-Hi920ZpystH8HzjjyLekyzgh4XVAQHUDCIQiKBHwLbXvIdwcWeoTbF6-TsGCy_r5vYJF8qw22P-oaupwhe-tvnFdfa3biTna78q0cG14YMfevuGmxfasLsVmMQfyj65CK0xfLhxp6CxylPjmQrCmNDQYeFfew496bBAOOEergWQDrYtvrbGohrwFGuk2aeTdgQe7b38-pw1So4wBpxTYx29UsRLxa_cFJd8lnzms--OkLDrKpDY9-EJ-23MfPdWPWdxA==

what's the fascination with Vaal Pact?
"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
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what's the fascination with Vaal Pact?


If you get hit hard by something your ES is recovered instantly, so if it or something else hit's you before you're able to react, you are less likely to die. It can be a life saver.

Edit: Also if you are receiving damage exceeding 20% of your life per second (regen from life leech) you have to run. With Vaal Pact you can stay and tank if your leech is high enough.
Berek's Grip Ice Spear
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/780707
Budget Magicfind and/or Hardcore Flame Totem
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1211543
Last edited by Necrogue#4186 on May 15, 2013, 3:45:06 PM
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Necrogue wrote:
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what's the fascination with Vaal Pact?


If you get hit hard by something your ES is recovered instantly, so if it or something else hit's you before you're able to react, you are less likely to die. It can be a life saver.

Edit: Also if you are receiving damage exceeding 20% of your life per second (regen from life leech) you have to run. With Vaal Pact you can stay and tank if your leech is high enough.

yeah i'm sure with VP, i could literally face-tank this game because i can do do it up to a limit right now without that help.

edit: just so you know, your passive tree takes away the 30 dex node, and only grabs one 10 dex node.. this causes issues with Grace/Haste.. you need 153 dex for lvl20 of each, and your build only provides 147 dex. and this is with +20 Eye and +30 dex on my dagger.. i'd imagine most people don't even have 30 dex on their weapon
"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
Last edited by _wuv_#1477 on May 15, 2013, 8:30:25 PM
video posted :)
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Nice vid! Definitely some impressive crowd control. Have you played around with discharge at all? Might have some nice synergies with freezelocking/discharge/fp for more charges and so on.

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