Ascending without doing the lab...
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Everyone wants everything for nothing. Pretty soon people will be asking to start leagues at lvl 65 if they've done a league before. Not sure I like where things are headed in poe atm!
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The core game play in PoE is kill-monsters-get-loot. Lab trap gauntlets are not part of this core PoE game play. Some people (like me) do not enjoy playing trap gauntlet game play. It is boring and irritating to me. It's not because I die or can't do it. It is because it is boring and irritating game play. People that think they can tell me what I have to like or dislike are just plain wrong. It doesn't work that way. People that say stuff about me wanting free ascendancy points are just plain not reading what people are posting.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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" The Lab sure seems like core PoE. At least GGG seems to think it is. |
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" Not sure if it's been mentioned here or not, but the plan was to have 18 or so entirely new Ascendancies obtainable in the 'Path of Exile 2' campaign. So chances are that unless things change drastically in the core game as well, the Lord's Labyrinth will remain the way to get the current Ascendancies regardless. This just makes sense to me -- no reason for the Labyrinth to give different Ascendancies just because the new campaign is set a handful of years after the first. Also, the new campaign is meant to be 7 new acts, likely avoiding existing locales to avoid accusations of lazy asset recycling. I loved testing the Labyrinth, back when it was an actual labyrinth. Could spend hours in there, finding secret passages and hidden rooms and whatnot. But that was before Ascendancy itself became all but mandatory, and I completely understand how running the Labyrinth breaks the flow of playing through the acts and rushing towards Maps. A new player can probably tell straight-off that the Labyrinth was added after the main story but before the implementation of Part 2 by its awkwardness alone. So: in and of itself, Labyrinth is awesome. Could be a separate game with some tweaking. But as part of the Path of Exile levelling process, it's just a little bit obnoxious I think. As for PoE '2', expect something at least as arduous. Ascendancy is not seen as a mere 'prestige' class to be handed to you upon crossing a certain character level threshold, even though virtually every other RPG does do that (there was, for example, no gruelling test to attain your prestige class in Neverwinter Nights, only certain prerequisites; there is only a mere hint of a trial in Last Epoch). Assuming the next batch of Ascendancies are as paradigm-shifting as the current, there's no way they'd be significantly easier to attain...unless, again, GGG come to their senses and make the OG Ascendancies easier to obtain as well. Give the Lord's Labyrinth a different function though -- it's far too good as gaming content to just throw away. I dunno, maybe an alternate levelling stream? That was a joke, haha, fat chance. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Dec 14, 2020, 12:01:43 AM
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For anyone straw-manning people's lab opinions there are no shortage of threads from back when Ascendancy was released. You're wrong. People had all kinds of reasons for not liking the lab.
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" I'm pretty sure that request has already been made. I wish I could source it, but I've definitely seen people ask for the ability to buy level 70 and others that requested that level 70 be free after reaching it once. This endless delve event is going to start a new wave of people asking for an adventure mode for sure, which isn't quite the same as an instant level 70....but it's close. Thanks for all the fish!
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" Of course it is part of the core. The game play in lab is not kill-monster-get-loot game play is the point and is what I was saying. If you like it then great. I wish that I liked it to but I don't, it is boring and irritating. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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" Its not quite that cut an dry. The current ascendancy options in the Endless Delve league do not allow for any enchantments at all. I would argue that you should be able to ascend using some option like Endless delve, but if you want to try for a specefic enchantment then you actually have to run the labyrinth. I'm really not a fan of gating content behind random RNG levels - getting that last lab done is a pain unless you goto global 820 and ask for help. Cheers, Matt. There are 10 types of people. Those that know binary, and those that dont.
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I don't mind a challenge, but making the labs dark is just cruel to people with poor eyesight, like me. The game is already darker than most games (and I fear that one day I'll have to stop playing PoE), but hiding puzzles and traps on a dark screen is just cruel.
Hell, if you need to trick us, just make traps invisible, it is incredibly darwinian ableist to reward good vision and penalize failing vision. |
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absolutely hate the lab and especially the trials in the maps
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