Runes(D3) VS Support Gems(PoE), which one is deeper

IMHO, POE's skill gems are a worse idea than D3's skill runes in theory. In practice, it seems to be the other way around.

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Flauros wrote:

IMHO, POE's skill gems are a worse idea than D3's skill runes in theory. In practice, it seems to be the other way around.

Isn't that interesting?! I agree completely.

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Flauros wrote:

IMHO, POE's skill gems are a worse idea than D3's skill runes in theory. In practice, it seems to be the other way around.

I personally disagree.

Also, what the fuck, you don't even have a beta key. >.<
Obvious troll is obvious.

Disagree with your troll claim there. Anyone browsing these boards and looking at a few videos can see that the skill gem support system of PoE does seem, to many of us, to be deeper than the current (and likely eventual) skill rune system of D3.

It was a key factor to me, after all, that paradigm shift from exponential builds at relatively low level to making the majority of them much higher.

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Tagek wrote:

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Flauros wrote:

IMHO, POE's skill gems are a worse idea than D3's skill runes in theory. In practice, it seems to be the other way around.

I personally disagree.

Also, what the fuck, you don't even have a beta key. >.<
Obvious troll is obvious.

I haven't played either POE or D3, so this is all coming from an outsider's perspective.

Also, why are you so quick to defend D3? Obvious Blizzard employee is obvious.

...Fuck me. I think I'll just sit back and watch you two get your punches in, get your rage out of your system and then, maybe then, we can talk like civilised human beings.

But probably not.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

...Fuck me. I think I'll just sit back and watch you two get your punches in, get your rage out of your system and then, maybe then, we can talk like civilised human beings.

But probably not.

Begun, the forum wars have.

The key word why I called you a troll was 'in practice'.
You can't (properly) use that term when you haven't even played either of the games. My apoligies if that's not how you meant it.

About the systems, again, I really think we should not be discussing which one is 'deeper', as that discussion is primarily ruled by bias over anything else.

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The key word why I called you a troll was 'in practice'. You can't (properly) use that term when you haven't even played either of the games.

Your right I haven't played either game, but that doesn't mean I know nothing. From everything I can ascertain about either game, including the words of beta testers, my original statement appears true.

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My apoligies if that's not how you meant it.

I'm more offended by your spelling mistake than anything else. I mean calling me a troll is one thing. But misspelling a word? That's inexcusable, sir!

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About the systems, again, I really think we should not be discussing which one is 'deeper', as that discussion is primarily ruled by bias over anything else.

To a certain degree, this is true. However, we can measure whether or not a certain class, build, item, etc. is more powerful/useful/common than another. In POE, it appears that while certain builds within classes are more powerful than others, there is no "one build to rule them all". In Diablo 3, this is a moot point, as the only difference between two members of the same class appears to be gear- which is being sold by Blizzard, courtesy of the RMAH. In Diablo 3, the more powerful players are the ones who could afford to dish out money for better gear. In POE, the better players are the ones with a better build. D3 rewards bribing your way to victory. POE rewards system mastery and creativity. (Someone, maybe Tagek will probably object and say that it is the players selling the items, not Blizzard. While this is partially true, Blizzard takes a percentage of the profit. This means that they have a financial incentive to keep the RMAH as profitable as possible, even if it means turning the RMAH into nothing more than a casino.)

English is unfortunately not my first language, so I will make plenty of grammar and spelling mistakes. :)

As for your last point.. nope.
What you said there would be true... if the internet didn't exist and everyone would have to figure out their own build.
When the game is out for a bit anyone who wants to will just copy whatever the currently strongest build is.
You can choose not to, certainly, but saying player strength is not 100% determined by gear in POE is just false.

Also, it shows that you haven't done a whole lot of research on D3.
The number of build possibilities is huge.
Assuming the whole 'internet doesn't exist' situation, better players would also be the ones with the best builds just like they would be in POE.