[3.15]Expedition PENANCE/ SPARK Aura Stack, 50M+ DPS, BEST BUILD IN GAME | 20-30 EX BUDGET VIDEO

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sheep272 wrote:
Im not sure about this build :( swapped a few days ago and I can barely clear T1 Maps lol.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/sheep272/characters

What am I doing wrong here? I think its not because of my gear... :)


As @jan1ss19 said, in your setup, you are not running all the auras possible. See my previous comments for reference.

Cheers!
is divergent determination enough to cap us on phys reduction? if so - is guardian still worth it? id like to try another ascendancy :) maybe pathfinder
Maybe I missed this but for the medium cluster jewels is there a strict requirement for bonus skills? I mean should we have at least 3 replenishing, 1 purposeful, first among equals. I see that we will have at end game 8 mediums so I am just trying to see which notables should i look for and when should i stop looking for a scertain notable.
I noticed that maybe replenishing presence is enough to have 3 of. For purposeful harbinger since cap is at 40% probably 1 is snough. This makes 4 out of the 16 in total.
Was just wondering what you recomment for the rest of the notables? Stack first among equals?
Thanks for the support!
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bahnschranke wrote:
is divergent determination enough to cap us on phys reduction? if so - is guardian still worth it? id like to try another ascendancy :) maybe pathfinder


PoB does not calculate it properly so I'm not sure how it is actually calculated. As it says, 10% of evasion as extra armour, my best guess would be:
10% * Evasion * Aura Effect Mod = Extra armour from divergent determination.

Go to your PoB and calculate the above. Aura effect mod would be on the "Calcs" tab. Put any aura in the "Socket Group" to see your Aura Effect Mod. Then to actually simulate the calculated armour, edit any of your item and add:
+1000 to Armour

Replace the 1000 with the number you got from the above formula. After you add the line to the item, your armour should change accordingly. Then remove the Guardian ascendancy to see whether your phys dmg reduction is maxed out.

Take this as a grain of salt. I'm really not sure how it's calculated. This is just a guess. OP also recommends to use Inquisitor ascendancy of Scion instead of Guardian if you use divergent determination for the same reason you mentioned. Or pathfinder as you mentioned, if you prefer that. But there's no real number behind it, at least from what I know. I think it will depend on how much aura effect you got already. It will exponentially be better if you have more aura effect. 'Cause you scale everything. Not just the Aura Effect Mod part of the formula but also the base Evasion.
some info about divergent determination - without guardian ascendency i only have 63% phys reduction with 24k armour. but i don't have a third cluster setup yet. with more aura effect it might be possible. i'll find out when i gain a couple more levels and set it up
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_mrkvn wrote:
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bahnschranke wrote:
is divergent determination enough to cap us on phys reduction? if so - is guardian still worth it? id like to try another ascendancy :) maybe pathfinder


PoB does not calculate it properly so I'm not sure how it is actually calculated. As it says, 10% of evasion as extra armour, my best guess would be:
10% * Evasion * Aura Effect Mod = Extra armour from divergent determination.

Go to your PoB and calculate the above. Aura effect mod would be on the "Calcs" tab. Put any aura in the "Socket Group" to see your Aura Effect Mod. Then to actually simulate the calculated armour, edit any of your item and add:
+1000 to Armour

Replace the 1000 with the number you got from the above formula. After you add the line to the item, your armour should change accordingly. Then remove the Guardian ascendancy to see whether your phys dmg reduction is maxed out.

Take this as a grain of salt. I'm really not sure how it's calculated. This is just a guess. OP also recommends to use Inquisitor ascendancy of Scion instead of Guardian if you use divergent determination for the same reason you mentioned. Or pathfinder as you mentioned, if you prefer that. But there's no real number behind it, at least from what I know. I think it will depend on how much aura effect you got already. It will exponentially be better if you have more aura effect. 'Cause you scale everything. Not just the Aura Effect Mod part of the formula but also the base Evasion.



where does he say something about inq? i must be blind haha.

Last edited by bahnschranke on Oct 13, 2020, 4:35:55 PM
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jan1ss19 wrote:
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sheep272 wrote:
Im not sure about this build :( swapped a few days ago and I can barely clear T1 Maps lol.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/sheep272/characters

What am I doing wrong here? I think its not because of my gear... :)
Post POB ,but most of the time problem is wrong aura setup or should i say lack of auras. Also you are rather low lvl. You might not have enough mana/life for all the neccessary auras


Alright, I've been looking through the comments and and pretty confident I have the correct build in general :)
The thing is I still keep dying very easily to normal mobs even in low tier maps and am not sure what else i can do :S
Here is my POB. https://pastebin.com/Kx2RyCZa
I would really appreciate it if someone would be kind enough to take a quick look at it and maybe give me a pointer.
Thanks in advance! :)
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sheep272 wrote:
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jan1ss19 wrote:
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sheep272 wrote:
Im not sure about this build :( swapped a few days ago and I can barely clear T1 Maps lol.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/sheep272/characters

What am I doing wrong here? I think its not because of my gear... :)
Post POB ,but most of the time problem is wrong aura setup or should i say lack of auras. Also you are rather low lvl. You might not have enough mana/life for all the neccessary auras


Alright, I've been looking through the comments and and pretty confident I have the correct build in general :)
The thing is I still keep dying very easily to normal mobs even in low tier maps and am not sure what else i can do :S
Here is my POB. https://pastebin.com/Kx2RyCZa
I would really appreciate it if someone would be kind enough to take a quick look at it and maybe give me a pointer.
Thanks in advance! :)


pob links isnt working so here is the plain text
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trifapaul wrote:
Maybe I missed this but for the medium cluster jewels is there a strict requirement for bonus skills? I mean should we have at least 3 replenishing, 1 purposeful, first among equals. I see that we will have at end game 8 mediums so I am just trying to see which notables should i look for and when should i stop looking for a scertain notable.
I noticed that maybe replenishing presence is enough to have 3 of. For purposeful harbinger since cap is at 40% probably 1 is snough. This makes 4 out of the 16 in total.
Was just wondering what you recomment for the rest of the notables? Stack first among equals?
Thanks for the support!


There's no requirement. The more aura effect you have, the better. That being said, I created a google sheet to see which combinations generate the most aura effect for cluster. Here's the link:
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Es_IKS5WM9PcCL9Knq9vygjqIbqy9MFihv2cH9ISGFE/edit?usp=sharing


It's read-only. Save/Download/Copy it for you to be able to edit it. It's just a simple Aura per Cost you get. You can just focus on Increased Aura Effect column if you don't need the cost but it's there if you want to know how much you spend per aura effect.

Highlighted in yellow is, at least for me, the most aura you can get on a budget. That's 38 per cluster. So 228% for 6 medium clusters. Now, this is not a requirement. It's just something you can refer to gauge where you are in your progress. Fit in a notable or two if need be. Especially those notables that reduce mana reservation for certain auras. If you fit that in, then less aura effect. Thus you have to maximize your reduce mana reservations else where. It's hard to run all auras without having a notable for reducing mana reservation but it's doable, I think. I'm not sure.

Now if you go crazy, you'd eventually use Voices Large Cluster to have more aura effect. A never ending grind. Which is fun! Cheers!
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bahnschranke wrote:

where does he say something about inq? i must be blind haha.


He didn't put it in the guide. He mentioned it in his stream. He should put it in the guide though. Lol.

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