[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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Msciwoj wrote:

I was just looking at this guide trying to decide what to do for my next character. Then I closed it and went back to playing the game, opened a map with a Zana mission, she offered me a Purifier map, I killed the Purifier and he dropped the Memory Vault xD. I guess the game is trying to tell me to play this. I have never played templar before, it is the only character I don't even have the Dominus achievement for.
Currently I am playing a fast attacking, teleporting melee build that clears maps very very fast but can be a little bit glass-cannonish and lacks a bit of damage against bosses. Will this feel very different? How does this build fare against the new Atlas bosses and Metamorphs?

It will feel very different than a teleporting melee glass cannon that's for sure. It's definitely a best on the costlier side too so keep that in mind. The build doesn't start to feel alive (IMO) until you've at least a few ex into it, depending on what gear you already have.

A couple of things I'd point out are, leveling it is a pain if you go based off of the leveling build suggested in this guide. I'd do something different until I hit level 68. Someone recommended playing it like any other summoner until then and that's probably a really good idea. It will be cheap and allow you to blow through the content.

Also, be sure and get a Trigger on skill used wand. I wouldn't play this build without it having tried. It makes it feel *much* smoother.

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Not directly at poster I'm replying it but I just switched to vicious projectiles and MAN does that really increase your damage over maim. I would 100% focus on being able to run Herald of Agony with VP as one of the first things I do after being able to run hatred + herald of agony. It feels so good damage wise. I felt the build was lacking in the damage department then switched from maim to VP and it feels so nice now.

Question: Is it possible to have 4 spectres with this build? Pretty sure I saw another mana guardian with 4 spectres. The gem only gives 2 right? Then we 1 more from Death Attunement. Where could we get a 4th spectre?

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Nugsterx wrote:

Hey guys, How is this build for early end game? currently playing a Ice shot deadeye in early red maps and getting tired of flopping everytime a boss or metemorph looks at me. This looks very tanky and exactly what i'm looking for. However, i looked up a few of the key items and noticed the Shaper's touch gloves with corruption are over 7ex! is there a budget option to get me started or do i need alot of currency from the get go?

Also, the leveling guide mentions 4 links, Quilrain and theifs torment? Most people will atleast have a tabula (does % damage corruption work for HoA?). what should i run for 6 link and any other items i could use to make the levelling easier? i had a quick scan through this thread and alot of people seem to complain about the levelling being difficult.

TIA for any advice.

P.S i have a couple of ex saved up so can buy some fancy leveling gear / early endgame gear if you can advise on any.

This build is very tanky, just keep in mind you're playing with 1HP and all ES so it takes a little getting used to. Budget wise it costs a lot. I'm probably 7-8ex in after all the gear and gems and I STILL don't have a +1 shaper glove and a couple of the high end jewels. Depending on the price of stuff I could easily see this hitting 20 ex when I'm done. Probably more after min maxing.

So it all depends what you're trying to do. There's cheaper tanky builds out there but for me this was a totally unique playstyle I'd never done before.

As far as leveling up goes, I hated the Quill Rain + Thief's torment build. It never felt good to me and I constantly fought to not get bodied while leveling. I switched to an arc lightning templar build to hit 68 and that got me through leveling pretty well. Other people have suggested just using a summoner build to level with and that probably makes the most sense. It's cheap and will carry you through content with no problem.

Can we please have a Cyclone variant( to replace ball lightning) and gems link?
Thank you.

I don't understand How I can have a level 27 herald of agony and do no damage. I Switched from this build from herald of agony / purity build because I eventually wanted to stop using cyclone. On 50c at the time I was doing more damage than this build.

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Okahuma wrote:

Question: Is it possible to have 4 spectres with this build? Pretty sure I saw another mana guardian with 4 spectres. The gem only gives 2 right? Then we 1 more from Death Attunement. Where could we get a 4th spectre?

Yes 4 Spectres is key to this build since one of the asc points goes into Radiant Crusade which gives us permanent onslaught when we have 5 minions out (4 spectres + crawler).

You need a level 21 Raise Spectre gem + the listed shield + a wand that gives +1 to all minion gems. That allows your Raise Spectre gem to give you 3 minions plus the 1 from Death Attunement gets you 4.

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k4t4 wrote:

Can we please have a Cyclone variant( to replace ball lightning) and gems link?
Thank you.

OP has a Cyclone variant listed in the first post. You can run Cyclone on your gloves with the right mods. It's detailed pretty well there.

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BenN1ce wrote:

I don't understand How I can have a level 27 herald of agony and do no damage. I Switched from this build from herald of agony / purity build because I eventually wanted to stop using cyclone. On 50c at the time I was doing more damage than this build.

This build is without a doubt not a budget one. I have a 26HOA and what really made my damage feel like it was on another level was switching from maim to Vicious Projectiles. How is that HOA/Purity build you mention compare to this one on tankiness? I'd assume that's where this build excels over most is it's ability to stay alive.

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Mythrol1 wrote:

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k4t4 wrote:

Can we please have a Cyclone variant( to replace ball lightning) and gems link?
Thank you.

OP has a Cyclone variant listed in the first post. You can run Cyclone on your gloves with the right mods. It's detailed pretty well there.

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BenN1ce wrote:

I don't understand How I can have a level 27 herald of agony and do no damage. I Switched from this build from herald of agony / purity build because I eventually wanted to stop using cyclone. On 50c at the time I was doing more damage than this build.

This build is without a doubt not a budget one. I have a 26HOA and what really made my damage feel like it was on another level was switching from maim to Vicious Projectiles. How is that HOA/Purity build you mention compare to this one on tankiness? I'd assume that's where this build excels over most is it's ability to stay alive.

It's tanky but eventually you can't just melee everything. I was thinking how to take down Sirius. I was doing early reds no problem.

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Mythrol1 wrote:

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Okahuma wrote:

Question: Is it possible to have 4 spectres with this build? Pretty sure I saw another mana guardian with 4 spectres. The gem only gives 2 right? Then we 1 more from Death Attunement. Where could we get a 4th spectre?

Yes 4 Spectres is key to this build since one of the asc points goes into Radiant Crusade which gives us permanent onslaught when we have 5 minions out (4 spectres + crawler).

You need a level 21 Raise Spectre gem + the listed shield + a wand that gives +1 to all minion gems. That allows your Raise Spectre gem to give you 3 minions plus the 1 from Death Attunement gets you 4.

Cant find :( can U Post a Link plz

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Mythrol1 wrote:

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Okahuma wrote:

Question: Is it possible to have 4 spectres with this build? Pretty sure I saw another mana guardian with 4 spectres. The gem only gives 2 right? Then we 1 more from Death Attunement. Where could we get a 4th spectre?

Yes 4 Spectres is key to this build since one of the asc points goes into Radiant Crusade which gives us permanent onslaught when we have 5 minions out (4 spectres + crawler).

You need a level 21 Raise Spectre gem + the listed shield + a wand that gives +1 to all minion gems. That allows your Raise Spectre gem to give you 3 minions plus the 1 from Death Attunement gets you 4.

Do Skitter bots also count toward the 5 you need for Radiant Crusade.