[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

Most cash I've ever poured into a build and it is fun so far. I do wish the damage was a little better, but maybe once I swap to vicious projectiles it'll feel nicer.

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livejamie wrote:

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daviltam wrote:

Wonderful! I've read your post on NGA but I can't leave comments there.
Could I allocate Minion Instability & Avatar of Fire in lieu of Pain Attunement?
If so, that means I can gain a double buff from the Jewel?
And maybe I could save a few passive points(1-2)?

You can allocate any keystone you want with Lethal Pride, any of the 3 you mentioned would be fine.

You can only use one historic jewel.

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igranier wrote:

This was, by far, my worst leveling experience to date. I assumed rain of arrows-poison-lesser poison-herald of agony-faster attacks would be sufficient. It isn't.

Were you using Tabula and Quill Rain? It should be some of the easiest leveling in the game. What issues did you run into?

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I'll be on for a little bit if anybody needs the flayer spectres.

any more levelling tips pls? Just starting this build, what skills should i be using/gem setups or good uniques for early on

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bufftoosolid wrote:

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livejamie wrote:

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daviltam wrote:

Wonderful! I've read your post on NGA but I can't leave comments there.
Could I allocate Minion Instability & Avatar of Fire in lieu of Pain Attunement?
If so, that means I can gain a double buff from the Jewel?
And maybe I could save a few passive points(1-2)?

You can allocate any keystone you want with Lethal Pride, any of the 3 you mentioned would be fine.

You can only use one historic jewel.

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igranier wrote:

This was, by far, my worst leveling experience to date. I assumed rain of arrows-poison-lesser poison-herald of agony-faster attacks would be sufficient. It isn't.

Were you using Tabula and Quill Rain? It should be some of the easiest leveling in the game. What issues did you run into?

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I'll be on for a little bit if anybody needs the flayer spectres.

any more levelling tips pls? Just starting this build, what skills should i be using/gem setups or good uniques for early on

get the two cheap unique jewels "Fortress Covenant" and "Quickening Covenant". They are pretty huge for leveling the build and cost nothing. If you are noticing you are building Virulence stacks too slow, get the golden rule jewel even while leveling and without CI. I never noticed the poison on me.

thanks for the reply, can i run all the skill gems he has even when im lvl 40?

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bufftoosolid wrote:

thanks for the reply, can i run all the skill gems he has even when im lvl 40?

Apart from the auras which would take too much reservation at that level and with that gear, sure. Max level of any level 1 gem is 38.

How exactly do we swap to vicious projectiles? Different chest? White sockets? what gets replaced and why.

I guess besides just leveling gems and qualitying them, not much else is left to upgrade except better rolls right? And the better wand, but I just hit 71 so that may be a bit off.

The only thing I don't like is relying on the agony crawler to damage, it seems to take forever just to kill tier 8 metamorphs, maybe it's a playstyle thing I'm doing wrong or IDK.

But virulence stacks are almost always at 40 in mapping, but on bosses I struggle to keep it at 40 and it'll dip down to the high 20s, low 30s.

I guess uber lab will also help with having to move from shit as well.

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Windfuriouss wrote:

I guess besides just leveling gems and qualitying them, not much else is left to upgrade except better rolls right? And the better wand, but I just hit 71 so that may be a bit off.

The only thing I don't like is relying on the agony crawler to damage, it seems to take forever just to kill tier 8 metamorphs, maybe it's a playstyle thing I'm doing wrong or IDK.

But virulence stacks are almost always at 40 in mapping, but on bosses I struggle to keep it at 40 and it'll dip down to the high 20s, low 30s.

I guess uber lab will also help with having to move from shit as well.

You are leveling... Your crawler is missing like 9 levels alone, not to mention everything else you are missing or will get upgrades in the future.

My crawler kills juiced up T16 metamorphs, which have like 5 times the amount of life of pre-3.9 T15 bosses, in 5 seconds.

My guess is the tail spike damage of your crawler is around 300k with 40 Virulence stacks. Mine is at 3.6m.

So don't worry, the damage is definitely there for this build. Just need to keep leveling up your character and gems and upgrade your gear. We all started at your level of gear and character.

And you are still using Lesser Poison Support instead of Poison Support. You have a Circle of Nostalgia, you can switch to Poison Support. That should help a bunch with maintaining 40 stacks against bosses.

So it's just level more really. And quality gems.

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Windfuriouss wrote:

I guess besides just leveling gems and qualitying them, not much else is left to upgrade except better rolls right? And the better wand, but I just hit 71 so that may be a bit off.

The only thing I don't like is relying on the agony crawler to damage, it seems to take forever just to kill tier 8 metamorphs, maybe it's a playstyle thing I'm doing wrong or IDK.

But virulence stacks are almost always at 40 in mapping, but on bosses I struggle to keep it at 40 and it'll dip down to the high 20s, low 30s.

I guess uber lab will also help with having to move from shit as well.

Really cheap fixes:

- Replace Cold Iron Point with a +1 Spell or +1 Minion wand with open suffix for trigger socketed spell craft
- Replace your amulet with Astramentis
- Get a level 20 Herald of Agony and Raise Spectre (Cheap) or Level 21 (Expensive)
- Replace Lesser Poison with Poison
- Don't link Flesh and Stone with Generosity (I assume)
- Use Carrion Golem until you have a Level 25 Raise Spectre gem as you're not getting the benefit of any of your Ascendency