Hall of Grandmasters legit suggestions (not complaints!)

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johnKeys wrote:

If it is a dot to be filled in the Atlas, which provides completion bonus, then it's not opt-in in my opinion.

Opt-in is an area you must enter specifically, like Atziri for example, or a Breach Realm.
Hall Of Grandmasters should be like that: a PvP area you choose to attempt, primarily for the challenge and secondary for loot.
Which isn't great to be honest. My combined loot from about a dozen runs, doesn't compare to Breach or Atziri runs. Certainly not to my single successful Uber Atziri attempt.
Yes I am aware "the card" can drop there - but chances of finding it seem as likely, as finding the thing this card gives.
Map drops for example are downright insulting: you get maps based on the tier of HoGM. You know, like you didn't just beat a bunch of level 100 PvP arena-god avatars, plus Gubben trolls and Demi's troll queen. Here's a tier 6 for ya. Good job.

atlas bonus (after the 100%) has almost no effects to your map drops.
i should say i dont think its even a good effect to begin with.

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Qiu_Qiu wrote:

Again, it's not really about the 1% bonus, but rather about who you are advertising this content for. As-is, non-casual pseudo-PvP content is being advertised to casual entirely PvE players.

I just can't even with you people...

Are you actually saying that POE would be better if optional endgame content became secret optional endgame content, where new players will get a HOGM drop and have even less of a clue what it is because it's not on the Atlas? And even THAT is nothing short of crazy because, and I cannot possibly stress this enough, removing HOGM from the Atlas list and not completing it puts you at 158/158, which is THE EXACT SAME as having 158/159 in the current system.

You are talking about deliberately concealing content, for literally no beneficial reason, because bad players get sad when they see something they can't beat, even though that wouldn't work because they would still become aware of it when they got one as a drop/from cards/etc. So, no, HELL no, this is an idea that solves literally nothing and creates new problems.

I really can't put it any more bluntly than I already did: If you can't do HOGM, don't. Sell the map instead of running it. It's 100% optional. And players who seriously can't deal psychologically with the knowledge that there is content they aren't good enough to beat need to grow up. That is NOT the response of an adult.

The only good thing I can say is that this is still better than the completely idiotic suggestion that GGG hands out a completion bonuses for failing to complete the map.

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johnKeys wrote:

If it is a dot to be filled in the Atlas, which provides completion bonus, then it's not opt-in in my opinion.

le sigh

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robmafia wrote:

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johnKeys wrote:

If it is a dot to be filled in the Atlas, which provides completion bonus, then it's not opt-in in my opinion.

le sigh

compétences en lecture.

Do you get Atlas bonus from Atziri?
A map on the Atlas is not optional. A side area is.

@ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate, Sextants.

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johnKeys wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

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johnKeys wrote:

If it is a dot to be filled in the Atlas, which provides completion bonus, then it's not opt-in in my opinion.

le sigh

compétences en lecture.

Do you get Atlas bonus from Atziri?
A map on the Atlas is not optional. A side area is.

@ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate, Sextants.

I saw what you said, and you're wrong. That's all there is to it. Something that is wrong doesn't become LESS wrong because "it's your opinion." Reality doesn't care about your emotions.

Maximum Atlas bonus gives you an additional Sextant.

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Qiu_Qiu wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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johnKeys wrote:

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atlas bonus (after the 100%) has almost no effects to your map drops.
i should say i dont think its even a good effect to begin with.

Again, it's not really about the 1% bonus, but rather about who you are advertising this content for. As-is, non-casual pseudo-PvP content is being advertised to casual entirely PvE players.

and its being advertised to people who want their characters to be put in HoGM.
dont forget them.

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johnKeys wrote:

Maximum Atlas bonus gives you an additional Sextant.

lol u are right :D
but its useless anyway. sextants are usually there for target map farming so having 5 or 4 sextants w/o a target farming wouldnt even matter.
now that i think of it mapping doesnt even matter anymore ^^ but thats another topic for another day.

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johnKeys wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

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johnKeys wrote:

If it is a dot to be filled in the Atlas, which provides completion bonus, then it's not opt-in in my opinion.

le sigh

compétences en lecture.

Do you get Atlas bonus from Atziri?
A map on the Atlas is not optional. A side area is.

@ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate, Sextants.

you're literally calling it a BONUS and also implying it's mandatory.

pick one.

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robmafia wrote:

you're literally calling it a BONUS and also implying it's mandatory.

pick one.

Seriously, the amount of doublethink in this thread is just ridiculous.

But hey, at least they're funny? I actually lol'd at the idea of someone completing every single other map while still struggling with HOGM. What's a Perandus Manor go for these days, 10 exalts? You can clear HOGM in a Tabula and 20c worth of resistance-covering gear.