[3.10] 🐉 Dragon's Breath Elementalist - Incinerate

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so, I'm back :)

lost that link, so here's the new one

https://pastebin.com/b086qS77

I had to steal 2 points to activate another gem, trying to get some survivability.. I have a Kaoms as well, it's in the build

Either I truly have no idea how to play, or I am the unluckiest person in game.

Primoredial Blocks - 4 deaths - won
Phoenix - 4 deaths - won, barely
Hydra - 4 deaths - won
Minotaur - 4 deaths - won
Chimera - 3 full attempts, 15 deaths - didn't win

When I take any kind of hit, I'm at 1/2 health instantly. for the chimera, he pops behind me and its insta death. I never got him below 3/4. at 25+ chaos a try, I can't afford it any more until I can actually win

I know I need upgrades, but I'm in standard, everything is so expensive. There is a perfect Watchers Eye out there, guy wants a mirror for it.. yea.. right.. lol

I've gone through 58 sets of fossils trying to make a new helmet following your recipe, none have even come close, either it ends up with no health and 100 mana, or 100 health and 1% fire resist or worse (ilvl 85 base)

I'm currently just trying to Delve my way through lvl 93 for about the 5th time with all these deaths. I plan to do that for 94 as well, that will put back the 2 points I "borrowed" on the tree.

Still love playing the build, but, frustration has set in

If you or anyone has any suggestions (aside from spending 5ex or more, I'm broke from buying chisels, scouring and alchemy), I'd love to hear them.


Welcome back

are you sure you use the right fossiles for the craft?
You just need this.



That you get mana is very rare. Should take 10-15 crafts for a good one.


Maybe you just need more dmg. Atm it is not very high. I think you should aim about 3-5 mio. Maybe you can get a better amulet and also the helmet.
Also you can use Wave of Conviction for the -res. You can selfcast it or use it with a cwdt setup, thats a free 10-15% more dmg.

You don't realy need the -mana on watchers you can easy craft it on ring or amulet. So you can get more dmg there.

Maybe you can also spec out from the low life nodes and take the fire dmg on the top. If things die faster, you don't have to be that tanky :)
IGN: xSickSlam
Last edited by SicknessXI on May 21, 2019, 7:34:08 AM
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so, I'm back :)

lost that link, so here's the new one

https://pastebin.com/b086qS77

I had to steal 2 points to activate another gem, trying to get some survivability.. I have a Kaoms as well, it's in the build

Either I truly have no idea how to play, or I am the unluckiest person in game.

Primoredial Blocks - 4 deaths - won
Phoenix - 4 deaths - won, barely
Hydra - 4 deaths - won
Minotaur - 4 deaths - won
Chimera - 3 full attempts, 15 deaths - didn't win

When I take any kind of hit, I'm at 1/2 health instantly. for the chimera, he pops behind me and its insta death. I never got him below 3/4. at 25+ chaos a try, I can't afford it any more until I can actually win

I know I need upgrades, but I'm in standard, everything is so expensive. There is a perfect Watchers Eye out there, guy wants a mirror for it.. yea.. right.. lol

I've gone through 58 sets of fossils trying to make a new helmet following your recipe, none have even come close, either it ends up with no health and 100 mana, or 100 health and 1% fire resist or worse (ilvl 85 base)

I'm currently just trying to Delve my way through lvl 93 for about the 5th time with all these deaths. I plan to do that for 94 as well, that will put back the 2 points I "borrowed" on the tree.

Still love playing the build, but, frustration has set in

If you or anyone has any suggestions (aside from spending 5ex or more, I'm broke from buying chisels, scouring and alchemy), I'd love to hear them.

Well you have done a lots of things wrong. :(

-About crating a helmet "I've gone through 58 sets of fossils trying to make a new helmet following your recipe, none have even come close, either it ends up with no health and 100 mana, or 100 health and 1% fire resist or worse (ilvl 85 base)"
you are either doing something wrong our you are rly unlucky. With Prestine & Scorched fossils together you are guarantied to roll life and fire mod!
Msg me tonight @Lets_try_a_Mjonler in standard and I will give you a good helmet for free without enchant. Enchant at this point is not that important.
You are currently using Memory Vault which is pretty useless without any life on it.

-Second, get Kaom's Heart! It will directly bump your life for a 1000.

-Your passive tree is wrong at few spots, check that again and correct it.

-amulet is bad...






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SicknessXI wrote:
That's my new setup


https://pastebin.com/x6MixRLx


switched from Anger to Zealotry and also I don't use a warlocksmark ring anymore. The leech from ascendancy is enough and with the -manacost on amulet and ring I have 0 manacost for incinerate.


Path of building can't calculate the effect of the watchers eye for 10% more dmg :( and also the inc dmg on the boots for non-vaalskills. But I think the dps is still ok.

If you have questions feel free to ask


Wow the dps isn't ok it's insane! xD

I took a look at your PoB and I would add some corrections to it.

About the Shock. You checked it in PoB but it's wrong calculation because it calculates the max shock value by default (50% more damage taken).
Shock is a little tricky and you can see mechanics here https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shock

Some points,
Shock ailment typically can only by applied by critical strike of lightning damage, but it can be overridden. You apply Shock ailment via ring.

The base duration of shock is 2 seconds and the damage increase scales relative to the amount of Lightning damage dealt to the enemy's maximum life.

Hits below the minimum threshold of 1% effect are discarded,[1] effectively requiring a hit of 0.2% enemy maximum life. As an example, The Shaper has approximately 20 000 000 life. Minimally shocking The Shaper requires a single hit of 40 000 lightning damage.

We don't have that amount of lightning damage, so in my original build i took Beacon of Ruin ascendancy node which states that "Shocks from your hits always increase damage taken by at least 20%". That way you only need to apply Shock ailment to get 20% more dps on target. I did that thru Orb of Storms which has the highest chance in build to crit and apply Shock ailment with miserable amount of lightning damage (1 is enough) and activate Elemental Overload at the same time.
This shock effect is not calculated by default by PoB so I manually added it on Kaom's Heart.

Typically scaling shock is done with increasing the amount of lightning damage in a hit and with passive points.

Other non-hit sources of shock, unless otherwise specified in the debuff, will increase damage taken by 20%. This scales with any modifiers to shock effectiveness.[2]

https://pastebin.com/pEKZ91eM
This would be more realistic calculation. I added damage from non-vaal skills and Zealotry on boots.

16 million Shaper DPS with release fully buffed! All in all your build is amazing!




Last edited by TorsteinTheFallen on May 21, 2019, 9:25:39 AM
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SicknessXI wrote:
That's my new setup


https://pastebin.com/x6MixRLx


switched from Anger to Zealotry and also I don't use a warlocksmark ring anymore. The leech from ascendancy is enough and with the -manacost on amulet and ring I have 0 manacost for incinerate.


Path of building can't calculate the effect of the watchers eye for 10% more dmg :( and also the inc dmg on the boots for non-vaalskills. But I think the dps is still ok.

If you have questions feel free to ask


Wow the dps isn't ok it's insane! xD

I took a look at your PoB and I would add some corrections to it.

About the Shock. You checked it in PoB but it's wrong calculation because it calculates the max shock value by default (50% more damage taken).
Shock is a little tricky and you can see mechanics here https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shock

Some points,
Shock ailment typically can only by applied by critical strike of lightning damage, but it can be overridden. You apply Shock ailment via ring.

The base duration of shock is 2 seconds and the damage increase scales relative to the amount of Lightning damage dealt to the enemy's maximum life.

Hits below the minimum threshold of 1% effect are discarded,[1] effectively requiring a hit of 0.2% enemy maximum life. As an example, The Shaper has approximately 20 000 000 life. Minimally shocking The Shaper requires a single hit of 40 000 lightning damage.

We don't have that amount of lightning damage, so in my original build i took Beacon of Ruin ascendancy node which states that "Shocks from your hits always increase damage taken by at least 20%". That way you only need to apply Shock ailment to get 20% more dps on target. I did that thru Orb of Storms which has the highest chance in build to crit and apply Shock ailment with miserable amount of lightning damage (1 is enough) and activate Elemental Overload at the same time.
This shock effect is not calculated by default by PoB so I manually added it on Kaom's Heart.

Typically scaling shock is done with increasing the amount of lightning damage in a hit and with passive points.

Other non-hit sources of shock, unless otherwise specified in the debuff, will increase damage taken by 20%. This scales with any modifiers to shock effectiveness.[2]

https://pastebin.com/pEKZ91eM
This would be more realistic calculation. I added damage from non-vaal skills and Zealotry on boots.

All in all your build is amazing!








I'm not sure about the shock, if the discription isn't wrong it should give 20% more dmg.

https://imgur.com/a/sS95aY6

Also the 10% more dmg from my watchers eye does't work in PoB :(

edit: seems that you found a way to add the Zealotry dmg :)
IGN: xSickSlam
Last edited by SicknessXI on May 21, 2019, 9:32:49 AM
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SicknessXI wrote:
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SicknessXI wrote:
That's my new setup


https://pastebin.com/x6MixRLx


switched from Anger to Zealotry and also I don't use a warlocksmark ring anymore. The leech from ascendancy is enough and with the -manacost on amulet and ring I have 0 manacost for incinerate.


Path of building can't calculate the effect of the watchers eye for 10% more dmg :( and also the inc dmg on the boots for non-vaalskills. But I think the dps is still ok.

If you have questions feel free to ask


Wow the dps isn't ok it's insane! xD

I took a look at your PoB and I would add some corrections to it.

About the Shock. You checked it in PoB but it's wrong calculation because it calculates the max shock value by default (50% more damage taken).
Shock is a little tricky and you can see mechanics here https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Shock

Some points,
Shock ailment typically can only by applied by critical strike of lightning damage, but it can be overridden. You apply Shock ailment via ring.

The base duration of shock is 2 seconds and the damage increase scales relative to the amount of Lightning damage dealt to the enemy's maximum life.

Hits below the minimum threshold of 1% effect are discarded,[1] effectively requiring a hit of 0.2% enemy maximum life. As an example, The Shaper has approximately 20 000 000 life. Minimally shocking The Shaper requires a single hit of 40 000 lightning damage.

We don't have that amount of lightning damage, so in my original build i took Beacon of Ruin ascendancy node which states that "Shocks from your hits always increase damage taken by at least 20%". That way you only need to apply Shock ailment to get 20% more dps on target. I did that thru Orb of Storms which has the highest chance in build to crit and apply Shock ailment with miserable amount of lightning damage (1 is enough) and activate Elemental Overload at the same time.
This shock effect is not calculated by default by PoB so I manually added it on Kaom's Heart.

Typically scaling shock is done with increasing the amount of lightning damage in a hit and with passive points.

Other non-hit sources of shock, unless otherwise specified in the debuff, will increase damage taken by 20%. This scales with any modifiers to shock effectiveness.[2]

https://pastebin.com/pEKZ91eM
This would be more realistic calculation. I added damage from non-vaal skills and Zealotry on boots.

All in all your build is amazing!








I'm not sure about the shock, if the discription isn't wrong it should give 20% more dmg.

https://imgur.com/a/sS95aY6

Also the 10% more dmg from my watchers eye does't work in PoB :(

edit: seems that you found a way to add the Zealotry dmg :)


Yeah my bad i edited my post. Still checking shocked in configuration sets it by default at 50% instead of 20%.
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Yeah my bad i edited my post. Still checking shocked in configuration sets it by default at 50% instead of 20%.


Yes you are right, the normal calculation from PoB is too high for shock.

Thank you for doing the right settings to see the real dps :)
IGN: xSickSlam
Last edited by SicknessXI on May 21, 2019, 10:51:36 AM
I really enjoy your build but I can't deal with phys damage. I tried Minotaur and he killed me in two seconds. It's not even about my damage output. I don't even get to start... I use flasks and vaal grace and still die instantly. Either I am doing something completely wrong or I am missing something.

Have the same problems with other physical encounters like core. Even Betrayal NPC get to kill me if I am not using flask etc.

https://pastebin.com/KKvR2JmA

Build is not perfect by now but it did work with 99% of the content so far.

Would appreciate some advice.

Thanks.
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hankins wrote:
I really enjoy your build but I can't deal with phys damage. I tried Minotaur and he killed me in two seconds. It's not even about my damage output. I don't even get to start... I use flasks and vaal grace and still die instantly. Either I am doing something completely wrong or I am missing something.

Have the same problems with other physical encounters like core. Even Betrayal NPC get to kill me if I am not using flask etc.

https://pastebin.com/KKvR2JmA

Build is not perfect by now but it did work with 99% of the content so far.

Would appreciate some advice.

Thanks.


Hmm maybe you do something wrong. With some dmg mods on map you will be oneshot if he pops out of the ground. You should avoid to take that dmg. Otherwise it's just your dps. If it's high enough you can facetank for 4-5 seconds till he's dead. If your dps isn't high enough then you have to run. Do some dmg run do some dmg.

Your gear has nearly no dmg. I think i would start with the rings. Get a cheap mark of the shaper ring and one elder ring. Best would be with warlocks mark, but also without its ok for the start. If you get one with warlocks then you can run Anger or Zealotry instead of Blasphemy. Also you can improve nearly every other gear slot. Hope that helps you
IGN: xSickSlam
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hankins wrote:
I really enjoy your build but I can't deal with phys damage. I tried Minotaur and he killed me in two seconds. It's not even about my damage output. I don't even get to start... I use flasks and vaal grace and still die instantly. Either I am doing something completely wrong or I am missing something.

Have the same problems with other physical encounters like core. Even Betrayal NPC get to kill me if I am not using flask etc.

https://pastebin.com/KKvR2JmA

Build is not perfect by now but it did work with 99% of the content so far.

Would appreciate some advice.

Thanks.

What SicknessXI said pretty much...

With some bad map mods you can get one-shoted from Mino like "Unique boss deals 30% increased damage". Also you should avoid getting hit when he burrows. He will come up at the position where you were when he dived. But still with little experience even that is manageable.

Elementalist is a weak ascendancy in defense area and you should manually dodge more. I had no issues with Betrayal other that occasional one-shots which is normal.

Overall you need general gear improvement. This is a good base but without more investing at this point it starts to fall off damage wise. Your total life is a little low also.

Like SicknessXI advised start from the rings, that would be most dps for money improvement atm. :)
Last edited by TorsteinTheFallen on May 21, 2019, 2:32:19 PM
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SicknessXI wrote:
That's my new setup


https://pastebin.com/x6MixRLx


switched from Anger to Zealotry and also I don't use a warlocksmark ring anymore. The leech from ascendancy is enough and with the -manacost on amulet and ring I have 0 manacost for incinerate.


Path of building can't calculate the effect of the watchers eye for 10% more dmg :( and also the inc dmg on the boots for non-vaalskills. But I think the dps is still ok.

If you have questions feel free to ask


Can you pls post some video vs Shaper or UE? I would rly like to see how this looks in action xD

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