[3.4] Tahreyn's 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable



Hi and welcome to my 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator Guide. This build uses Cyclone or Molten Strike with ~100% chance to poison to gain Virulence stacks, while being extremely tanky thanks to 83/83 block, 90+ Life Gain on Hit, blind, and a decent life pool.



The Build in action. You'll find more footage in the video section


Path of Building (current high budget gear): https://pastebin.com/fPi65GM7





1.0. Introduction

1.1. Pros & Cons

Pros
  • Can do all map mods & content
  • You are immortal 83% of the time!
  • Works well on a budget
  • Delving made easy (not sure how deep it can go yet though)

Cons
  • A bit weak to Degen damage
  • Not the fastest mapper
  • Getting all the corruptions can be hard/expensive


1.2. Cyclone vs Molten Strike

I prefer the use of Cyclone for this build, but it is a matter of taste and I'll list pro's and con's for both skills here.
Cyclone Pro's:
  • Stun Immunity
  • Attacking while moving
  • Great for delving

Cyclone Con's
  • Moving while attacking

Molten Strike Pro's:
  • Better Life gain on Hit
  • Easier to reach 40 virulence stack even with lower attack speeds

Molten Strike Con's:
  • Requires 2 Wildfire jewels, i.e. No life / minion damage / chance to poison
  • You'll lose virulence stacks when you have to reposition yourself


1.3. Playstyle

Lead the way for your Agony Crawler by going through packs and see how the Crawler kills everything, and use Tempest Shield and Convocation every now and then. The crawler is immortal and you are not far behind yourself.







2.0. PoB, Skill Trees, Ascendancy, and Leveling

POB - High budget: https://pastebin.com/fPi65GM7 (different tree)
PoB - Medium Budget: https://pastebin.com/j8pQLbJY
PoB - Low Budget: https://pastebin.com/07pi8che
PoB - HC / Life Oriented https://pastebin.com/5vSaBLt8
Without the Coming Calamity getting a level 21 HoAg will become a higher priority. This is because at lvl 21 the crawler goes from 3 to 4 attack speed and 19 to 20% damage per virulence stack, adding 40% iAS and 20% damage in addition to the extra flat damage.
2.1. Ascendancy - Gladiator

The Gladiator class is used for its Versatile Combatant (chance to block spell damage is equal to your attack block), and Violent Retaliation's +4 to maximum block.

While you might think of going Scion Gladiator instead I wouldn't recommend it. With the recent changes to Spell Block it is far too costly to get any good levels of it, and you will only be able to reach 82/75 maximum block.

Order of Ascendancy Points:
Painforged -> Versatile Combatant -> Violent Retaliation -> Blood in the Eyes

2.2. Leveling

I leveled my character with Herald of Agony from as soon as I could use it, even if it can be wise to wait for lvl 31 and the Poison Support before you try commiting to it. Link Cyclone with Poison + Lesser Poison + Life on Hit and get a Double Claw (Life & Mana on hit) with attack speed on level 36 and that will take you to maps. Herald of Agony should be linked with (in order of importance) Pierce + Damage on Full Life + Minion Speed/Minion Damage/LMP + Vicious Projectiles/LMP

Leveling Trees:
40 points: http://poeurl.com/b5p7
67 points: http://poeurl.com/b5p6
88 points: http://poeurl.com/b5p5
99 points: http://poeurl.com/b5p3
114 points: http://poeurl.com/b5p2 (full Low/medium budget tree)

Feel Free to pick up the block nodes, more life nodes, or more minion nodes earlier. The Leveling tree's should serve as an outline to how you can do it, but depending on your gear and taste you can always go for what suits you better.

Up to level 55 when you can use the Coming Calamity, and after if you don't have one yet, you can go for any other body armour. The mana cost for Herald of Agony with the links found in 4.1.2. isn't too high even on a 6L, so if you have a tabula go for it!

The 3 skills and links I would get ASAP when leveling are:

HoA - Pierce - Damage on Full Life - Minion Speed / Damage (for bosses) - Vicious Projectiles
Cyclone - Poison - Lesser Poison - Life Gained on Hit
Shield Charge - Faster Attacks - Blood Magic - Fortify

The remaining links you can pick up when you have the sockets & links for it.

I also strongly recommend to level 6 Herald of Agony gems in your off-sockets. Having a fairly good chance at getting at least one of them to lvl 21 + 20 quality will be very nice indeed.

2.3. Starting a League with this build

This build should be a pretty good choice for a league starter as long as you don't want to go super fast. It will take a while to get all the desired items, but if you take a look at the low budget setup you'll see that you don't need much to get it going.

2.4. Pantheons

Major:
  • Soul of Solaris provides many really nice defensive benefits for when you actually get hit

Minor:
  • Soul of Shakari. Poison Immunity.








3.0. Bandits

Kill them all






4.0. Gear, Gems & Links


4.1.1. Gear used in 3.4. Delve




Defensive Stats from Delve League




All the gems & links are based upon my current gear. If you want to see the the setup for the Medium and Low budget builds, check the corresponding Path of Building builds found at section "2.0. PoB, Skill Trees, Ascendancy, and Leveling".
4.1.2. Gems & Links

Body: Herald of Agony - Pierce - Damage on Full Life - Minion Speed / Minion Damage + Vicious Projectiles + Maim / Empower 4 / Withering Touch / Slower Projectiles / Added Chaos
Getting 5 Off-colours on the Calamity can be hard, which is why I've included multiple alternatives for the 6th link.

Gloves: Cyclone - Life Gain on Hit - Fortify - Withering Touch - Faster Attacks - Poison
Note that I get 2 links from my gloves. Poison is a REQUIRED gem so if you don't have the gloves then you need to socket it.

Boots: Cast when Damage Taken (lvl 1) - Desecrate (lvl 7) - Spirit Offering (lvl 8) - Convocation (must be lvl 6 or above) / Increased Duration
For mapping I strongly recommend Convocation instead of Increased Duration as Proximity Shield mobs will be very annoying otherwise. I only recolour my boots for Increased Duration for very hard encounters.

Helmet: Tempest Shield - Curse on Hit - Temporal Chains - Culling Strike
Here you can experiment if you like. I love Temporal Chains but the only thing that's required is really the Tempest Shield.

Weapon: Herald of Purity - Withering Touch - Minion Damage - Maim - Faster Attacks - Melee Splash
Once again I get links from the item. HoP minions won't do that much damage even on the 6L so the links from the weapon is mainly a luxury.

Shield: Shield Charge + Faster Attacks + Blood Magic
If you don't use a Curse + Culling setup then you can use the helmet 4L for Shield Charge and throw in Fortify.

Ring: Hatred
The medium budget build will use Determination here instead to get the watcher's eye block.






5.0. Tips & Tricks

  • Use a Rumi's Concoction to play -#% to block chance maps with ease
  • If you can get +2 Mana Gained on Hit on 1-2 jewels then is the Advancing Fortress an awesome weapon with its 15% block and 30-50 life!
  • If you want to spawn Purity minions while mapping then you can use a Writhing Jar flask

I might add some more stuff here at a later date






6.0. FAQ & Priorities (READ BEFORE POSTING)

Why don't you use Molten Strike?
My personal preference is Cyclone. You can read Pro's and Con's for both skills in section 1.2.

What if I don't have a Coming Calamity?
You'll do just fine on a tabula or a regular 5L up until that point. You just have to wait to use Hatred/Detemination and Herald of Agony.

I don't have enough Dexterity, help?!
Ideally you should try to get your dexterity from your gear. Jewels, helmet, ring, boots, gloves, & claws are the possible candidates unless you essence craft a belt. On the tree you have easy access to one +30 dex node, and can also pick up the +20 nodes at the Marauder, Templar, and Witch start. The Marauder & Templar nodes have the added benefits of giving you some attack speed.

Cyclone spends so much mana. How can I solve this?
You have two options. Either you get a claw with Mana gained on Hit (Double Claw (lvl 36) / Twin Claw (lvl 57) / Gemeni Claw (lvl 72), or you link your cyclone to Blood Magic. If you already have a LgoH claw then you can temporarily swap out the LgoH support gem, otherwise you should do quite fine without the Lesser Poison support for a total of 80% chance to poison.

What's the DPS of the Agony Crawler?
It's impossible to say for certain atm as there is very little information available of the crawler. If I would give an estimate it would be around 500k with my current setup. It is at least good enough that end-game content will run smoothly for you, but it will never be close to those tens of millions builds.

Can it clear Hall of the Grandmasters?
No. While 99% of the grandmasters will be super easy, there are a few of them that you will not be able to kill with this setup.

6.1. Gear Priorities

Check the Path of Building setups for complete sets of gear. This is mainly a rough guideline in which order to get some of the specific items. Remember that you always should try to have life on all non-unique gear and be resist capped.
  • 1. Claw with Life gained on Hit & Mana gained on Hit
  • 2. 5L Coming Calamity
  • 3. Lioneye's Remorse
  • 4. The Anvil
  • 5. Essence Worm
  • 6. Elder Block gloves (extra support gems if possible)
  • 7. Helmet Enchant: Summoned Agony Crawler Fires 2 Additional Projectiles
  • 8. 6L Coming Calamity
  • 9. +1 Max chance to block Attack Damage Shield
  • 10. +5% Chance to Block Attack Damage Corruption on The Anvil
  • 11. The Red Nightmare








7.0. Video

Über Elder Kill
https://youtu.be/AzkLYgOgT9M

Shaper / Über Atziri / Phoenix
https://youtu.be/eR9la_4Hz0M

T14 Acid Lakes
https://youtu.be/Ufjj9Q7aRPU












9.0. Version History

  • 2018-09-18: Added a mapping video.
  • 2018-09-15: Fixed the leveling trees and added some leveling notes.
  • 2018-09-14: Posted the first version of the guide.





Questions? Please check the FAQ first, and then post a comment in this thread if you can't find an answer there. If you want me or someone else to check the gear on you character, please ensure that your character tab is not set to private.
Builds:
[3.4] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
Last edited by Tahreyn on Sep 18, 2018, 8:32:29 AM
Last bumped on Sep 21, 2018, 11:26:45 PM
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Builds:
[3.4] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
I knew I recognized your name and build layout and it's because I did your srs build. Welcome back.

Theorycrafting a similar build and want to get your thoughts on:

-Phy to lightning EE setup in the agony, especially with Molten Strike hated-generosity
-Fitting in proj weakness for more damage and to save the Pierce link
-instant abyssal cry to help with clear
-interesting uniques - gluttony belt, surrender, pit of command gloves
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Completed 17 Challengesbahamut458 wrote:
I knew I recognized your name and build layout and it's because I did your srs build. Welcome back.

Theorycrafting a similar build and want to get your thoughts on:

-Phy to lightning EE setup in the agony, especially with Molten Strike hated-generosity
-Fitting in proj weakness for more damage and to save the Pierce link
-instant abyssal cry to help with clear
-interesting uniques - gluttony belt, surrender, pit of command gloves


Thank you. It has been a while since I've felt that I had created a build that felt unique and good enough to share.

I guess that you're running Hatred linked with Generosity then as well? That'd give 50% of phys added as Cold, and then PTL for another ~75% (+- a bit depending on if the crawler has that phys to chaos conversion or not). so with ~125% of base dmg dealing cold/lightning you'd get a nice dmg increase with EE. Please do tell how it works when you try it.

Proj weakness is probably the best dps curse for the crawler, but it'd be a big investment to run a 45% HoAg, hatred + blasphemy, some 40% mana reduced would be required. So were you thinking about self casting or using CoH for the curse?

I tried a setup with gluttony (nice for procing painforged i know) but I threw it out after a few maps and a Minotaur as I felt I was taking way too much dmg from trash (where armour makes the biggest difference). In the end I bought the red nightmare instead and was able to swap out my determination + watcher's eye combination (now part of the medium budget setup).

The Surrender I would consider swapping to if I would be able to get one with the +1 maximum block implicit, but until then I'm staying with my Lioneye's Remorse :) The LoB is quite nice on it, but you won't get anything from the armour if you combine it with gluttony.

So far I haven't actually notice if my crawler is able to miss or not. I don't know if it is the new accuracy nodes for minions, or if it might even be a spell its doing, but I'm not sure that you'd actually gain that much from the 1000 accuracy that the Command of the Pit provides.
Builds:
[3.4] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
Last edited by Tahreyn on Sep 14, 2018, 11:42:39 AM
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Completed 28 ChallengesTahreyn wrote:


Proj weakness is probably the best dps curse for the crawler, but it'd be a big investment to run a 45% HoAg, hatred + blasphemy, some 40% mana reduced would be required. So were you thinking about self casting or using CoH for the curse?



Yeah I'd probably do curse on hit with reckoning or tempest shield because I'm not capable of hitting more than two buttons. I even want to do cwdt spirit offering/convocation. Seems worth it to not need Pierce on the crawler.

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Completed 28 ChallengesTahreyn wrote:

I tried a setup with gluttony (nice for procing painforged i know) but I threw it out after a few maps and a Minotaur as I felt I was taking way too much dmg from trash (where armour makes the biggest difference). In the end I bought the red nightmare instead and was able to swap out my determination + watcher's eye combination (now part of the medium budget setup).


Makes sense and makes going the surrender route for armor more appealing.


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Completed 28 ChallengesTahreyn wrote:

So far I haven't actually notice if my crawler is able to miss or not. I don't know if it is the new accuracy nodes for minions, or if it might even be a spell its doing, but I'm not sure that you'd actually gain that much from the 1000 accuracy that the Command of the Pit provides.


Yeah that was my main purpose of the gluttony plus a bit of lgoh which is overkill with Molten Strike. Not sure how important accuracy is.

How mandatory is convocation? Is the crawler pretty derpy/slow?
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Completed 17 Challengesbahamut458 wrote:


Yeah I'd probably do curse on hit with reckoning or tempest shield because I'm not capable of hitting more than two buttons. I even want to do cwdt spirit offering/convocation. Seems worth it to not need Pierce on the crawler.

If you are going to use Proj Weakness instead of Pierce then you'll need a way to reliable curse entire packs. I've a feeling that Tempest Shield and/or reckoning won't be enough. If you somehow can spare the links it might be worth linking it to Molten Strike.

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Completed 17 Challengesbahamut458 wrote:

Yeah that was my main purpose of the gluttony plus a bit of lgoh which is overkill with Molten Strike. Not sure how important accuracy is.

How mandatory is convocation? Is the crawler pretty derpy/slow?

Convocation is mainly to easily kill mobs with Proximity Shield. Besides that will the crawler be fairly quick as long as you have minion speed linked to it.
Builds:
[3.4] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
Looks solid to me, but there is something I miss here.

What options for gearing do you have if you havn't a calamity yet? (SSF, yes I know leave out herald of purity)

And your rings and amu are missing in the gear section.
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Last edited by eviL_Bison on Sep 14, 2018, 3:15:11 PM
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Completed 9 ChallengeseviL_Bison wrote:
Looks solid to me, but there is something I miss here.

What options for gearing do you have if you havn't a calamity yet? (SSF, yes I know leave out herald of purity)

And your rings and amu are missing in the gear section.

Thanks for the feedback. Rings and amulet are now included.

If you don't have a calamity then you'll do just fine on any 5L or with a tabula. You'll just have to wait with using Herald of Purity & Hatred/Determination until you can find the calamity. I added this to the FAQ as it was a good question :)
Builds:
[3.4] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
No offense, is the Herald of Purity doing anything for you? Is it worth the investment?
livejamie
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Completed 15 Challengeslivejamie wrote:
No offense, is the Herald of Purity doing anything for you? Is it worth the investment?

It's not doing a lot to be honest. It does help a bit with single target, assists with stacking wither stacks, and works as meat shield. It also makes it possible to apply Virulence Stacks through Tempest shield and other elemental spells, as it adds a physical component to it that can poison.

At the time I bought my claw it was like 20c so getting the extra links on it wasn't much investment financially speaking. Gear wise I guess you can get a regular ring instead of the Essence Worm if you fully skip the HoP, so there's always that option for those who don't want the HoP minions.
Builds:
[3.4] 83/83 Block Herald of Agony Gladiator - Über Elder Viable
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2218039/
[3.1] SRS LL Auramancer in-depth guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1816896/
Last edited by Tahreyn on Sep 14, 2018, 5:08:31 PM

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