[3.5] Rasgeroth's Puff Dragon. (Incinerate/Fireball Ignite Elementalist.) Shaper/Red Elder Viable.

INTRODUCTION:

Hello there, my name is Rasgeroth and I'm addicted to Path of Exile. (Wait a minute, I think that was the introduction for something else. Oh well...)

I've been playing the game ever since the Perandus League, and was itching to test the new ignite with the coming of the Incursion League. So far, I can say that it surpassed my expectations.
Ever since I was a toddler, I loved to watch things burn. (Hold on again, something definitely sounds wrong when I read that sentence out loud.)
Ever since I was a boy, I loved to watch things burn. (Phew, fixed.) Finally with the new league, I can live out my pyromaniac dreams, and the new Incinerate feels amazing in that regard. I started the league with this build, and got up to shaper without any problems.

Other than this build, I've got a bunch of goodies waiting around in my standard league roster, and I am a newbie streamer. You can take a look at my profile with Path of Building, and watch me baby rage about lag spikes right here:

https://www.twitch.tv/rasgeroth

For those who like to watch a guide and can't be arsed to read it, no worries, I got you covered right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L7i4ZjVEnU&feature=youtu.be

3.5 CHANGES: I Strongly believe this build got buffed through the Brand. Since I do not have a LVL 20 or 21 Armageddon Brand on my hand a day before 3.5 is even released, I'm not exactly sure. But we are right next to two + Active Brand talents, and if the Brand Damage increase also increases the ignites, we are golden. 3 Meteors for 3 stacks of ignites is very possible, and probably makes the build a lot safer than Incinerate version. Flameblast did not exactly give me the gigantic ignite numbers I was expecting, but Armageddon Brand might as it scales with the cast speed, and much easier to apply compared to Flameblast or Incinerate. I will try and see the Brand Version, and if it works, I'll level this again on stream during Betrayal league. Either case, I will update the guide once again.

ABOUT THE BUILD:

Short version? You burn stuff.
Long version? You try to control your twitching eye, at least make an attempt to stop your body from trembling, disregard the advice given to you by your psychiatrist, start giggling like maddened schoolgirl, and THEN you burn stuff.

The build works on a simple premise, you puff, puff and then pass. The joy spreads, people get high. Here's an example:


Puffs are visible via the nice little crown that appears on top of you, so you know when it is time to pass.

Here are two other examples on tougher opponents.




Here's the one that deserves an explanation.



Explanation is simple. I got waaaaaaaaaaaay too excited to kill him for the first time this season. He's low, lower than cull range. (I can work a culling strike gem in btw. I will in future kills.) I thought one more good release and he'll be down, and I thought I was outside that Beam. I wasn't. Go back in, he is waiting for me to sneeze on him, I do, but he also sneezes on me and I don't care about it. GUESS WHAT?! Yea, dead again.

Though you see, this ridiculous kill also emphasizes the strengths of the build. Notice how I spread out the orbs? The ignite does enough damage to push him into phases, and you can take your time when being chased by an Orb. You can write your name with them if you want to. I rush in face first, die expectedly, and yet ignite can still finish him off.

You can also count my portals, the first death was at the end of phase one, he moved for a slam, Zana moved for being teleported out. I thought "Oh, phase change" and stopped running. Turns out Shaper is no procrastinator, and finishes what he starts before doing something else.

BUILD MECHANICS:
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The build stacks ignites via double Emberwake,(3 ignites total) while it does reduce per second ignite damage, it will overall add up to 30% more ignite damage, depending on how much time you had for puffing.

How does Ignite stacking work, you might ask? Let me save you the trip to pathofexile wiki. All ignites stack. Every single one of them, as in each stage damage for incinerate ignites, it will stack. Every release of incinerate, that always ignites, will also stack. Only 3 of the highest damaging ignites you get on your target ticks though. (+2 if from Emberwakes.) Since your ignites last about 12 seconds, it is easy to stack 3 fully released incinerate ignites on bosses. For the rest, you don't need the damage, they die fast enough. 1 Full release is enough to kill rares and rogue exiles, so you can just burn and move on.

In my current version, I'm sacrificing movement speed for more effective HP, but if you are itching for speed, you can check out the fireball variation, in the versions section. Fireball is the better map clearer, while Incinerate lets you sustain better, and facetank most of the smaller attacks. Large one shots however, are to be avoided in all versions.

You can swap Vaal Fireball for Incinerate at anytime, anywhere. Just keep in mind, Incinerate is the better boss killer, and Fireball is the faster map clearer.

Budget wise, my version takes a fair amount of currency to build, but there are some things you can do. Only mandatory items are


I've opted for:

The required curse is Warlord's Mark, so Flammability is optional. Since Kaom restricts the number of total sockets I have on my gear, I'm using a Flame Dash as my movement skill. You can swap the chest to a Belly of the Beast, and get a Kaom's Roots instead, reducing the total amount of currency you need to spend on your gear. (And swap to Lightning Warp)

PRO & CON
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Pro's:
  • Can deal with almost all map mods. While cannot leech is technically doable, it usually isn't worth the pain to deal with.
  • Ignite Proliferation. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Does the same to enemies, but they will deny it.
  • Damage over time build, so you can fire & forget most of the time, and watch your flames spread like the disease you won't admit you have.
  • Durable, versatile self-caster. Oh yeah, it is a self cast build.
  • Decent league starter. Handles all content well.
  • Corpses are your allies. The ignite on corpses can still proliferate, turning any enemy you kill into a fire trap. You can release once on any strongbox that is guarded with a stream of monsters, and laugh as they spawn into their doom.


Cons:
  • This is not the fastest build. Current version especially sacrifices movement speed for better defense.
  • Self cast build, not for everyone.
  • Requires knowledge about how to avoid about a billion ways this game attempts to kill you with, so not the most newcomer friendly build.
  • You have to wait for your ignite to wear off on most Catarina missions. (United Nations report that there are still people actually willing to complete these. A massive aid event is planned, but not announced.)


PASSIVES AND ASCENDANCY:
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Passives:
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Path of Building
Current Version

Bandits:
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You are a Witch that burns all, so do it. Kill all of them. Even the pretty one, Kraityn.

Pantheon:
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Major God: Soul of the Brine King. Helps avoiding stun-locks.
Minor God: Soul of Shakari. Poison immunity, helps protect your mana pool.

Ascendancy:
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In order of importance:

Paragon of Calamity: This is a self cast build that relies on Warlord's Mark to sustain itself. Without the 0.5% leech from here, (Mr. Garrison Voice) "you will have a bad time, m'kay?" Plus, the defence is good, and reflect immunity is always welcome.

Pendulum of Destruction: Area of effect buff helps Incinerate reach further, in case you want to keep your distance. Elemental damage is what it is. Overall, not as useless as it seems.

Mastermind of Discord: Herald helps a bit with the ignite damage, not as much as Beacon of Ruin perhaps, but it helps with overall dps a lot since Incinerate channeled DPS is nothing to scoff at. Plus, this is a build about spreading fire and I'll take every fire spready thing I can, dammit!

Liege of the Primordial: You need some cast speed for Incinerate to work properly, so it is easy to get a bunch from a buffed Lightning Golem.

Why no Beacon of Ruin on an ignite build then? Simple. Ignite Proliferation gem gives further reach than the ascendancy, and it also one of the best gems to increase your ignite damage. Searing Touch also gives it a +2 level compared to Swift Affliction, making it a better choice.


GEAR & ENCHANTMENTS:
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Current Gear:
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Make note that Atziri's Promise is also useful but not much, since the main issue is the mana sustain. Wise Oak helps with the damage a bit, main reason I have it though is for the defensive bonus, since I have the perfect resists for it. (All three are the same.)
One flask is entirely up to you, I usually use a curse immunity Amethyst Flask. It gets swapped for a Ignite immunity basalt for Enslaver fights, for example.

Jewels:
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GRAND SPECTRUM, VIRIDIAN JEWEL
This is your budget version for increased Elemental Damage. Get 3 of them.
Rare jewels for the remainder of your jewel sockets. Get the needed Dex or Resists, and know that you won't need much of them.

While best option is to get %Fire Damage, %Maximum Life, %Burning Damage on all jewel slots, (It matches Spectrums if rolled 16% FD and 20% BD, letting you stack even more life.) 4th roll of the jewel is Damage Over Time, or Cast Speed. Though if you are rich enough to get enough number of jewels with those rolls (5 of them), you probably also have the cash to buy Path of Exile back from Tencent anyway. All hail you.

Enchantments:
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Gloves: Commandment of Inferno, Reflection or Flames
Boots: Life & Mana Regen would help you against damage over time if you can proc it, but the best option is Life & Mana Leech since it lets you run Hexproof maps without care. For most damage, Fire Damage on Kill enchant works the best, since it increases your total ignite numbers.
Helmet: % Incinerate Damage.

GEMS & LINKS:
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Incinerate:
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In order of importance: Combustion, Ignite Proliferation, Deadly Ailments, Burning Damage, Immolate.
You want damage over time on your damage over time, basicly. Talents + Gems = 100+ Chance of igniting, so you never worry about it.

Orb of Storms:
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In order of importance: Increased Critical Strikes, Arcane Surge (LVL 7), Increased Duration.
Your main utility spell, as it is with most Elemental Overload builds. It procs your node, and surge cast speed boost is godly for incinerate. Mana regen is good with Mind Over Matter, and duration eases the need to refresh the buff.
Alternate: Orb of Storms, Increased Critical Strikes, Arcane Surge (LVL 7), Flame Dash. If you move Flame Dash here, you free up a gem slot for culling strike through your golems. Turns out you can make use of one.

Mana Reserve:
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Herald of Ash, Blasphemy, Flammability, Warlord's Mark. Flammability is secondary, main required curse is Warlord's Mark. Helps increase physical damage mitigation via Endurance Charges, and lets you sustain Incinerate, and also sustains you via the leech.

Golems, Movement:
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Lightning Golem, Flame Golem, Flame Dash. The better Golem is Lightning, so prioritize it until you get the ascendancy for the second one. Linking the Golems with a Cast When Damage Taken lets them have 100% uptime.
If you wish, you can drop Liege of the Primordial, get the Shaper of Desolation and use 3 link Lightning Warp (+Swift Affliction Level 1, and Less Duration.) along with an unlinked Lightning Golem. Keep in mind that this way, you'll cast Lightning Golem as many times as you might cast Incinerate, as it will die to the slightest breeze. Take a look at the variations section for more movement skill related information. As I said before, I took Mind Over Matter to mitigate the burst damage, and for that to work properly I've sacrificed movement speed.


HOW TO DEAL WITH:
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  • Cannot Leech: You need to be patient, make use of the Hybrid flask, and take your time with the map. You can't sustain Incinerate without the mana leech, so if you can, just reroll the mod.
  • Monsters Avoid Elemental Ailments: You will lose some DPS, but remember that you have very high cast speed, and an incinerate that ignites 100% of the time for each cast. Some of your ignites will stick, even at 90% avoidance. Best solution is to skip releasing on 8th stack, but instead keep on channeling your incinerate on to the boss's face. That way, you make sure you at least get 3 max incinerate stack ignites, instead of 3 release wave ignites.
  • Cannot Regen: You are a leech based build, keep your enemies close and happy farming. (Within blasphemy range, but not too close, they bite.)
  • Elemental Reflect: You are immune. Enjoy the privelage.
  • Physical Reflect: Pretend you are hurt just to piss off your friends who can't do these maps? Otherwise, why am I even listing this?
  • Hexproof: Like I said before, you need the mana leech. Bad. So, either get a nice little enchant on your boots, or reroll the mod. The enchant is enough to sustain you the entire map, though be careful with the map boss. Some of them are lone wolves.
  • Your girlfriend leaving you: Keep the pain inside, try not to cry. There are other fish in the sea. Take comfort in knowing that I understand you. If you want to leave the thread after such a horrible joke, I understand you too.

LEVELING:
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From the start, go for Mind Over Matter, and complete the cluster. After that, most important node is Elemental Overload. Then you get your regen and life in order, before heading straight for damage nodes.
IMPORTANT: Use Elemental Proliferation until you get Ignite Proliferation. You can start spreading flames even before you get Incinerate, via Fireball.
Your early levels should look like:
https://poeplanner.com/AA8AAEUADwMAAB_fsIIQB6UC40myLJy86mpDCPQRLXyD6-6nCNgkVkiFbdWBJNiPRpuh99esmDpYVcaD24Uyly1JT7yqdFVfKgAAAAAA

Then you go for damage, like all out maaaan, and try to balance it out with more life nodes when you need them.
Level 60:
https://poeplanner.com/AA8AAK8ADyMAAFTfsIIQB6UC40myLJy86mpDCPQRLXyD6-6nCNgkVkiFbdWBJNiPRpuh99esmDpYVcaD24Uyly1JT7yqdFVfKvFsNthJGyqN7FUhsDT3l4UulB0U-tISaRcccXlmnnIPcYV65mP9RtfaubFCWfMaOJBVJy8Wb-NqJKo26Z2uA3WdY18EMtFFR8BmBLOiAPAfaPKUb2ZUmuBFnVNSr2wLYcauF6QTNZD6320AAAAAAA==

Then you move on to collect the rest of the life nodes, along with the utility. (Jewels, second curse.) Impresence requires level 64, so it is unimportant to get the second curse up until then.
Level 80:
https://poeplanner.com/AA8AAOUADyMAAG_fsIIQB6UC40myLJy86mpDCPQRLXyD6-6nCNgkVkiFbdWBJNiPRpuh99esmDpYVcaD24Uyly1JT7yqdFVfKvFsNthJGyqN7FUhsDT3l4UulB0U-tISaRcccXlmnnIPcYV65mP9RtfaubFCWfMaOJBVJy8Wb-NqJKo26Z2uA3WdY18EMtFFR8BmBLOiAPAfaPKUb2ZUmuBFnVNSr2wLYcauGGo5UlgHPC2DzLc-_grYvUGH-eiDX64-Z5vkUVBH7w4UIF8_8kU64aZXTeP-jxekEzWQ-t9t1AfcjUyL70sAAAAAAA==

From here, you are almost complete. Rest of the nodes are more utility along with more life. The build caps out at LVL 95, after that point, if you are willing to go, you can go for the curse effectiveness nodes, or the Arsonist cluster near Marauder area for level 100.
Level 90:
https://poeplanner.com/AA8AAPkADyMAAHnfsIIQB6UC40myLJy86mpDCPQRLXyD6-6nCNgkVkiFbdWBJNiPRpuh99esmDpYVcaD24Uyly1JT7yqdFVfKvFsNthJGyqN7FUhsDT3l4UulB0U-tISaRcccXlmnnIPcYV65mP9RtfaubFCWfMaOJBVJy8Wb-NqJKo26Z2uA3WdY18EMtFFR8BmBLOiAPAfaPKUb2ZUmuBFnVNSr2wLYcauGGo5UlgHPC2DzLc-_grYvUGH-eiDX64-Z5vkUVBH7w4UIF8_8kU64aZXTeP-jxhWHNyPGhg8vSf2SIzPPfxYYzWSF6QTNZD6321Mi-9L1AfcjQAAAAAA
Level 95:
https://poeplanner.com/AA8AAQMADyMAAH7fsIIQB6UC40myLJy86mpDCPQRLXyD6-6nCNgkVkiFbdWBJNiPRpuh99esmDpYVcaD24Uyly1JT7yqdFVfKvFsNthJGyqN7FUhsDT3l4UulB0U-tISaRcccXlmnnIPcYV65mP9RtfaubFCWfMaOJBVJy8Wb-NqJKo26Z2uA3WdY18EMtFFR8BmBLOiAPAfaPKUb2ZUmuBFnVNSr2wLYcauGGo5UlgHPC2DzLc-_grYvUGH-eiDX64-Z5vkUVBH7w4UIF8_8kU64aZXTeP-jxhWHNyPGhg8vSf2SIzPPfxYYzWSPAXvfFH7zRYfGBekEzWQ-t9tTIvvS9QH3I0AAAAAAA==

VARIATIONS:
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Ranged focus, Fireball Main:
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Path of Building for a faster map clearer using Fireball.

As I said earlier, Fireball is the faster mapper, since it does not need to stack for better ignite damage. By dropping Emberwakes, you lose on total ignite damage, but gain speed due to faster burn. Pyres are there to push that damage even further. This version is better when kiting, as you can't spam Fireball, or spamming it isn't worth it due to damage not scaling as well as Incinerate does. Though I'll happily admit Vaal Fireball looks great, awesome, and about 239 more adjectives that describe jaw dropping beauty. It refreshes fast, turns incursions into a mush, and makes you cackle with glee in breaches.

Changes:
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This version drops Warlord's Mark for Despair. This lets you keep your distance at all times, hence my emphasis on kiting.
Also notice that Ascendancies are altered in this version, as it plays as a "Fire and run for your life!" type of character. Ignite Proliferation is dropped for Swift Affliction, though it isn't the gigantic dps difference so you can keep it if you like the proliferation reach it provides.
A lvl 1 Immortal Call is added to the chest armor because no Mind Over Matter means those porcupines may cause some bad surprises.
The full set for the Lightning Warp is present for you teleporting needs. If you are compulsive about such a thing, go with this version.
Anger replaces Herald of Ash, as the ascendancy that utilizes the latter is not present, and the fire leech from the Jewel is mandatory so you can drop Warlord's Mark.
Thus, this version makes up the price difference with the mandatory Watcher's Eye.

Overall, the two builds do the same thing, burn your enemies and let you watch as they scream. That is the reason why I'm not separating them, and listing this variation in this thread. My current incinerate version is more durable, but this one is faster if you absolutely have to go fast. Other things I've said about the build still holds for this one too. Happy burning out there, Exile.

Screw Defense, I want to BURN!
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https://pastebin.com/pMK2UuLS The Glass Cannon version that uses Yoke of Suffering to amplify the ignite damage, with current equipment. This version feels fastest in terms of mapping, but also feels the most squishy.

Changes:
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I've moved around some talents, mainly removed Mind over Matter and Deep Thoughts that goes along with it. The mana nodes for the jewel connected to "Shaper" node are swapped with the life regen ones. Second curse is dropped as the build no longer relies on Warlord's Mark for life leech. Thoese three points are moved to Combat stamina to increase regen, armor and a bit of life, to reduce the effects of losing Mind Over Matter. Lastly, Amplify is dropped, for a total of 8 points that are freed. Those are spent on Breath of Lightning, and the jewel socket below it. A Fireborn Jewel is placed in the socket to turn all of the lightning damage into fire damage, while keeping the chance to shock.
A Yoke of Suffering takes the place of Impresence in order to Shock enemies. For maximum effect, Liege of Primordial and Paragon of Calamity is dropped for Beacon of Ruin. This version loses Elemental Reflect immunity, but gains more and more ignite damage through Ruin and the ability to shock effectively.
To deal with the loss of leech through Warlord's Mark, you need a Watcher's Eye that gives % fire damage leeched as life while affected by Anger. To deal with mana leech, you need a Shaper glove that gives "Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 15 Mana Leech." and place your Orb of Storms along with Curse on Hit, Flammability and Increased Critical Strikes in it. Anger is placed next to Herald of Ash. Flame Dash is linked to Arcane Surge, to keep the buff when needed.

I've played the last days of Incursion league with this version, leveled the flashback league with this version. It is a smooth, fast leveling and mapping experience.

So I thought, why not go all the way, and stepped inside Uber Elder fight when the leagues rolled and everything was in Standard. Main problem is, you just don't have the 1.5-2 secs to ramp up your incinerate in that fight. Fireball can melt them down just fine, though I think a combination of the above version that uses Pyres with talents of this one is better for that fight alone. With Pyres, the ignite DPS goes up to 200K, and Emberwakes give you 80K x3. Considering hitting the same target thrice is a tall order in that hectic mess, and you rather force them to change phases as quickly as you can. Since this is still a damage over time build, Pyres are a good way to reduce the time aspect, giving you relatively higher damage. (Uber Elder Fight only. Everything else is a breeze to be honest, including all T16 Guardians, Elder or Shaper.)

I probably don't have the reflexes for that fight to end it with this build, though I'm sure I don't have the connection stability. (I can farm Uber Elder on my summoner, but duuuh, it's a Necro with Specters and Skele Magi with all 3 Purities up.) I've got them down to 50% easily, even 25% once on my three attempts. If I lose the control of the fight though (i.e: Get cornered by barrage of orbs, or slowed right into a Shaper beam by Elder.) I don't seem to be able to get it back.
Since the problem here is the player, the build might as well be Uber Elder capable. Though since I failed to do it myself, I will not update the build as capable. If you guys have better connections, or just simply better players than I am, let me know, and I'll update accordingly. Happy burning out there, exiles.
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Continue to puff man,
Nice interesting build gonna try when I get enough resource in this league.
I like the build a lot, impressed to see emberwakes being moderately useful.

Some of the blue colors are really hard to read/see on the default forum background. Would you give any thought to a realmender, it's comparable damage and just kinda fun. Also cute job on getting resistances even.

Cheers
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Swapped around colors. Now it's 50% more rainbows!

About Realmender, it yields around 2% more ignite damage due to gems getting another level. Immolate scales like crazy, so another level helps, and does increase overall DPS.

Though I'd say it isn't high enough to make me consider the change, it is certainly viable, but I like the extra cast speed. Most of my Elder fights so far involved stacking ignites and avoiding the spam. Lack of ability to channel and sit still makes Realmender less useful compared to the extra cast speed of the Searing Touch, though by no means the build is sitting around critical thresholds of damage over time or cast speed. So use whichever you like.
skills tree (non PoB)?
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Atlas of Worlds is the worst thing that happen to POE.
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Completed 1 ChallengeMiazga wrote:
skills tree (non PoB)?


You can check the entire progression in the leveling section. There is a LVL 90 and LVL 95 passive tree via poe.planner there.
Gratz for your first guide. Your build definitely looks interesting and I loved the humour throughout out the guide.

Keep it going bro!

\-.-/ \m/
Last edited by n3wtonapple on Jul 4, 2018, 7:40:27 AM
Updated gear, gem links. Oh, and added the Shaper kill. Kind of the reason for gem links change, as you can see. Burn on through, exiles.
Is incinerate Hit and ignite proccing at the same time exactly ?
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Completed 1 ChallengeKenshiro069 wrote:
Is incinerate Hit and ignite proccing at the same time exactly ?


Well I don't completely understand the question, so I'll explain everything.

Incinerate has 116% ignite chance in this build. Each hit will proc an ignite at the time it hits. Though since the build is about release wave, the ignites from the previous ticks (Stage 7 and 8 for example) gets your Immolate all revved up, and your release leaves a big ignite when it hits. After that you can start stacking the release waves. (Up to 3 total, ignite last about 12 seconds.) When the release waves are all stacked up, they will also override your lesser ignites, damage wise. (Lesser ignites will continue to exist on your target, they just won't deal any damage. They should be keeping the enemy "ignited" for the purposes of your gems and talents though.)

I hope this covers it.

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