Can I reduce the currency spaces in my stash without losing on it?
" I have already done that long before writing here. I have beaten the game too, I'm 80 now. Nor am I someone who wants "more" free stuff. There isn't any free stuff to begin with (besides the game itself, and there's countless games out there that you CAN play and countless demos that you CAN play, but this fact is irrelevant, so - there is no free stuff to begin with). I also don't see where you see entitlement here. I don't feel entitled to anything in life, not the type, and in this case we are talking about a game that is presented as F2P, whereas it clearly is not, unless you are one of those people who would consider a game where you have to pay 2 cents to per monster kill and otherwise can just run around and do nothing else F2P (the only meaning then for P2P is if you have to pay monthly fee or purchase the game), however we are all aware of the commonly used meaning for P2P, that the game is unplayable and unfair without paying money, even though it is free to launch the game and do something in it. Server costs are comparably cheap, and my share of the server costs is maybe 1 cent or maybe even less than that. So, if this "entitlement" would help your personal piece of mind, I'm a nice enough guy to pay that 1 cent, just tell me an address and I'll ship you a coin, so long as it helps you feel better about yourself. :) You can do some research on server costs, they are very minimal, especially for the incomes that games with anything in-game produce (especially if they capitalize and play on emotions as well and use such marketing tricks like POH of making the price just tiny bit more higher so that you'd have to pay more and have leftover points during a sale - I consider that quite immoral but smart and most developers do it anyway, however that doesn't exclude GGG from doing it either). Their main costs is for development, however I can assure you that everybody gets a high salary from all the money they collect and the profits are not falling (unless we take a top point in their charts, then again - who knows if now is not the top point?), because there will be more players, more newbies, more impulsive purchases of those pretty wings or whatever. That's how MMOs survive for a long time, making billions from in-game fluff, because everyone is susceptible - if they have the finances (which I do not) - to get themselves a nice-looking skin or a pet. Even if I had extra cash I don't need for things that I can't afford, I would certainly buy some nice skins for myself too, but not to support a company who makes millions without my interference one way or the other. Also keep in mind that GGG launched POH for Xbox One and in China a few months ago, and we all know how spendful and passionate the Chinese are about MMOs. You can only imagine their revenue graphs since the day it was launched. And even before that they hit a round 150k consecutive players from what I've read. Oh, and you mentioned that I am asking people to pay for cosmetics to cover server costs? No, actually, I'm not. I am for people to buy things only if they really want them and can afford them without going hungry for a month. And I would never EVER ask anyone to buy anything from GGG or any other company or corporation who plays on peoples' emotions to gain profit or engages in questionable advertising of "truly free to play" or whatever it was. Even if all the profit from people who just buy things because they are genuinely nice people and GGG's marketing people played them like a string would stop buying stuff they don't even want, GGG would still have tons of profit, huge salaries, expanding possibilities and most definitely server costs paid tenfold. I understand that you are passionate about the game and are a loyal guy and that GGG is great at playing on emotions. I used to think that GGG were the gods and their game was truly F2P and a bunch of other things. Well, that was before I used some rational thinking, did some calculations and experienced that the game is totally unplayable with one main character who uses 4 stash tabs. I didn't even change my mind until I started playing again now, because I used to think "well I just keep too much stuff" back then. But now I see that with all the new features, it's not that, the game is indeed unplayable without more tabs, there's just too much stuff and time wasted doing basically nothing but going through your stuff. Just like you would be doing nothing but mindlessly grinding in other P2P games to get an item that someone can buy for $20 instead. So I am not picking a fight with you, I am just telling you my thoughts as someone who used to be you when I used to talk with others about POH who would tell me the same thing (except without explaining it) that I'm telling to you now (well, except the presumptuous, rude and aggressive attack statements that you made). And I am not trying to convince you either, I really don't care what you think, as long as you don't call out other people and tell them that they're somehow "entitled" or "asking to pay by buying cosmetics" or whatever other nonsense you presumed about me. |
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" Experience :) You can check trends on https://poe.ninja, so you know if prices are going up or down. But every currency trader is looking for profit, thats the basic concept - otherwise they would be wasting time. Its pretty much like in real life. Exchanging currency always means loosing a bit due to exchange ratios, fees and stuff. Its the same here in poe. |
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Another method of getting some free space as well as sort out your problem of changing accounts would be to start a guild (which I believe is free) this gets you a free tab and if you make another account you can add it to the guild and put any items you wish to transfer over in the guild stash tab and both accounts will be able to access it, so you can remove items on your mule and put into its stash tabs.
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This thread is just too long for me to actually bother reading, but I am in the understanding it is about Stash tabs and bunch of Currency. Well, simple really. Your solution is only to buy a Currency Stash tab, and maybe a cpl extra Stash tabs. Then your problem should be solved.
if you don´t want to pay full Points price, just wait for sale and get it then. My guess is that what most people do for this game. So go buy a 50 or 100 Points Pack and all your stash problems is history. Good luck. Last edited by Kundarin#5551 on May 12, 2018, 9:53:08 PM
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"If he can't afford personal stash tabs he won't be able to afford guild tabs. That would be a better use of 50 points though since it would allow muling to as many accounts as he wants. Guilds don't start with a free tab. Guild Leader The Amazon Basin <BASIN>
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For some reason I did not get notifications until now for this thread or there was no replies (not sure?).
" Great idea, but as someone else said, it is not free as this is after all a P2P game. " As I said, I cannot afford to buy a stash tab of any sort (nor should I, since this game is marketed as F2P, but as I said - I cannot afford it in the first place). And it's not about not wanting to pay something, it's about being unable to afford it, and the only way I will go buy it is if you pay for it, and since you are so insistent and completely ignoring my posts, I assume that you are going to pay for it then. :) " That does seem like a more cost-effective option, but I still can't afford it, since as you pointed out it isn't free in this P2P game. I could join a guild, but so far I got no replies about that, as I assume my honesty about just wanting a stash tab and to ask questions didn't fair well. |
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Ok, since you aren´t able to pay for a package of points you can use on ingame stash & dash, I assume you have to pay your very high bills, debt and such then. And food of course.
Then you will probably afford it one other day then. And if you are as you say in such a tight spot with money, maybe you can wish for some Path of Exile Points packages on your Bday. Or perhaps even a Supporter pack. And if I were able to actually do it, I would actually have considered just giving you my leftover points. Which is 50 Points. |
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" I'm not 12 anymore, I don't get gifts on my birthdays no matter if I wish for one or not, in fact there are no celebrations even. And well, too bad you can't because GGG is greedy with their P2P game. |
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So just a very convoluted thread that quickly devolved from "How do I save storage spaces?" to "This game isn't actuall free guys. THEY ARE SCAMMING YOU."
There have already been hundred of threads about the f2p or p2p crap. Go there if you want to bitch about it. Otherwise: Trade up your currency, use alt chars/accounts, get to the point in your life that you can afford to put a slight amount of real money into the game you've been using for entertainment for 4 years already. As already alluded to, your real life must be extremely taxing if you have a computer not physically capable of actually playing the game (I started playing on a laptop that sounded like a helicopter running the with textures ini modded down, but could still get a second client running for mule trades) and can't pay for the extra mtx that would make your stash more manageable, you honestly might have bigger priorities to worry about. Up until literally today, my fiancee and I prided ourselves a little getting all the challenge mtx once we started doing challenge leagues seriously but right now, we have a wedding to plan, just got a cat, and are both currently searching for better job opportunities. As much as we would like to pretend we have a fraction of the time streamers have and get 36 in bestiary, real life is a little more important. In the same way, if you are really that short changed, your money and how you spend it to improve your real life in general probably a little more important than a company that has no obligation to provide you or anybody else with more stuff but still does on a regular basis is not required to make their business model more giveway than it is already if it fucking works (which it clearly does so far). On sale, currency stash tab is $5 bucks, if you can't afford to throw even that at a completely fucking free game, go find your entertainment elsewhere. You must either be living in a a setting that is extremely expensive, have other priorities money wise, or don't have a job, or a combination of the 3. That isn't GGGs fault. I went through a similar experience when I started playing, so you can say its "loyality" or whatever iamverysmart bullshit about how anybody who disagrees is a brainwashed white knight for GGG but the fact of the matter is that you are ultimately insignificant to their business strategy that has covered them so far so your specific situation of having no spare income to pay a 5 dollar bill to them after 4 years is not their problem. It wasn't their problem when my initial 4 stash spots were crammed full then, it isn't their problem now. But then again, the rant is pointless as you really came to bitch about the whole f2p vs p2p argument didn't you? " " Which you are doing horribly by the way: Free-to-play (F2P or FtP) refers to video games which give players access to a significant portion of their content without paying. Can't really see how GGG fails on this end when literally the entirety of the content is available to you for free, the accessories and convenience is what costs something. If you want a Path of Exile that is entirely free, go make one yourself, see how far giving it out completely free of cost gets you with sustaining your funds to continue producing the game. It isn't that I'm not sympathetic to having no money you can put towards the game if you circumstances don't allow you to and it isn't just "It's free to play so it should be free" attitude, but you need to be realistic about what you have. You have had 4 years to see that this is how GGG set the stash up and designed it, passive aggressively telling GGG to change it by 'asking' for suggestions from other players is just annoying and should be beneath you. I can also understand if PoE is your stress release, free time activity. It is mine after all. But that still doesn't change the fact that the game is free, there are free options to keep you afloat, and you have to be more picky and choosy about every little thing you keep in your stash. You have to learn to micromanage your stash but other than that, there is nothing stopping you from enjoying the game except yourself. But if that isn't possible for you, you honestly need to go find another outlet since PoE isn't free enough for you. "It's all clearer now
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" Nope, me neither is 12 anymore. But hey, I still get perhaps maybe something on my bday. It happens. But guess you aren´t willing to spend anything of your own cash on this game, so that means just one thing really. $10 or $5. It doesn´t matter. Then perhaps you should consider stop smoking, to afford some cash on this game if you so wish. Or perhaps you could consider selling some of your unwanted stuff on auction. |
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