3.8 New Queens Escape + Baron - super fast physical skeletons + zombies
" I have 80 ex sitting in my invt this league ;) cheap re-spec isn't an issue. I made a ton off selling my gear off from this build and boss killing with my jugg. If I have time tonight/this weekend ill see what I can put together. | |
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started buying stuff last night, got half way. Takes forever to buy gems. Jewels will too.
Been looking into it a little bit (just on browser, not PoB research). Command of the pit is BIS for the +1000 accuracy to minions? Before accuracy wasn't a big issue because we had skeletons/zombies only which benefited from skeleton acendency point and zombie jewel. The boots are BIS because death walk counts as consuming a corpse, so phantasms are auto summoned then when they kill they summon the other 10-11 we can have from the skill gem. Shroud of lightness is BIS, or just a preference? Is there something exclusive about this item that I'm missing, or is it just solid for the build? Astramentis is just necessary for equipping items, maybe to swapped out if we can get dex elsewhere? The belt just adds extra minion damage stats vs a normal belt Is there a way to add zombies to the skeleton in chest if we have a 6l, or do to skele mage gems not really synergize with the skele mages? If not I'm wondering if just using vaal skele/zombie in a 6l belly all phys like this thread build and then running soulwrest for the phantasms still would be a good move. Then go similar gem links in helm for spectre/AG? I might not get on tonight if I get home late, if I do I'll try to finish buying stuff and hopefully test. If not it will be sat night. Any ideas throw em out there and I can test before next league. | |
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The original idea was to have a build that gets all its damage, utility spells and movements in one button push. I forgot to post the link originally:
https://pastebin.com/Sntt0znE It uses scolds bridle, doedres malevolence and CWDT interactions. I haven't tested it outside of hideout at all, so expect there may fine tuning needed to make sure you get damaged enough, and have enough mana to cast the one spell The other version of the build is one that has manual casting of your desecrate and offering, and phase run instead of bodyswap for movement, and assumes you have enough cash to buy the required good jewels: https://pastebin.com/MnaqZGBg " Command of the pit is not necessarily Bis, I just used it in the DPS version because it gives us 2 more abyssal sockets, and a bit of life. The accuracy buff will not help any spell caster, nor the melee skellies which already have cannot miss ascendency buff. " The boots are great quality of life for keeping phantasms at 20, but are not mandatory, especially if you are using spell cascade and faster casting, then the manual spellcasting is not too painful. " Shroud is not necessarily BiS, I just like that it is a nice cheap pseudo 6 link for skelly mages that does not need to be 6 linked. If using skelly mages, it would be too hard to colour a 6 linked belly or 6 linked lioneyes vision. " Yes. An aul's with haste would maybe be BIS here I reckon. Careful planning will get you the Dex you need, which would mean any amulet is fine. " Yeah a darkness enthroned is Bis belt for damage, as long as you have the right jewels in it. " Yeah, brutality melee minions would get more damage than the skelly mages, and would be better in a 6L belly. The only reason we use skelly mages is because of the spell echo, which lets us do the whole 'one button' thing in the scolds version. Skelly mage gems do not synergise at all with zombies. Melee skellies in the shroud body?
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Interestingly, the shroud can still work with melee minions if we run hatred, then you use the skellies with minion damage + melee phys + elemental damage with attacks + physical to lightning.
This would free up gem slots for spectres so you get power and frenzy charges. This would mean you could aim for EE + shock and you are at 550 shaper DPS per skeleton in theory It definitely seems like some viable synergies are there somewhere, we just have to find them! Last edited by grimlock9999 on Nov 16, 2018, 6:15:10 PM
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" I'm thinking the acrobatics nodes are better to aim for https://pastebin.com/HJpATT9m |
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First of all thank you for the nice guide.
I'm a little bit confused by this statement and the build trees you offer " It seems that you skip Spritual Command (and Sacrifice) up until the 117 points tree. However in the text aboth I got the impressions that you recommend targeting Spiritual Command after getting Lord of the dead. What is the rational behind this? For me it seems that Spiritual Command and Sacrifice would be quite nice early on. Best regards Benox | |
" Hey Benox, I wrote the guide before the tree got revamped, so had to redo the levelling tree afterwards, maybe I went a different path the second time. It's really just personal preference as to which you get first. I find that getting the stats for myself first is more enjoyable than getting the damage for the minions because I like to play lazy. Sometimes I just can't be bothered dodging or taking my finger off the move forward key. I also try to collect loot with screens full of enemies, and rarely bother IDing found items. As such, I need my strength, dex and life from the tree early, until I eventually find some resists on gear. |
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So I built the soulwrest one you linked. 7k life.
Map clear speed is great. I cleared t16 maps with ease. It ran in to issues with the bosses, died 5x to mino. Died 3x to phoenix. Overall I think I prefer the phys skele/zombie build. I really do love the phantasms w/ bubonic plague though. Is there a viable option to combine soulwrest / bubonic plague with this phys skele/zombie build? I think having the phys minions and zombies close to you is a very good meat shield, but I also loved having the projectile/range damage of the phantasms. It can probably be done while keeping the baron, but would require brute force jewels to account for the missing str from warpath boots. Is removing the baron a huge issue when running zombies? | |
" I ran it with what I could afford: 5K life. The mapping speed is indeed spectacular, and I didn't even equip a bubonic trail. I never felt in danger up to tier 10, but there is not much physical protection for lab traps. I also got frustrated with the scold bridle and decided to go self cast for desecrate and offering. I put in a Hale negator for the helmet to check that item out, but couldn't tell what effect it had. I did notice a huge quality of life buff from the dodge nodes. I think it has a lot of potential as a viable, but expensive " I don't think phantasms are good for minotaur: no phys reduction for you and minions have too little life so they'd die faster than you can resummon them " https://pastebin.com/yLgeRRzK It seems legit. You get a nice buff to cast speed and life regen from the soulwrest. I don't think you gain much from having ranged phantasms, but giving up minion movespeed. (My queens escape SRS build has the SRS move faster than skelly mages bullets with faster projectiles!). Not much would need to change with the tree. You'd need to fit a flesh offering and desecrate in there somewhere. The phantasms get negligible benefit from the baron beyond a small amount of life. There would be a few options: Zombies and Phantasms for about 2 mill dps, but zombies would lack a bit of life without level 4 empower, and they would lack that sweet movespeed. Nice passive playstyle though. Should be easy to get over 1K strength with the right jewels, and still using bubonic. Phantasms and skellies for about 3 mill dps, plus vaal skellies. Would need more casting, and the skellies would lack some movespeed. You lose the physical mitigation from zombies, but gain a bit of move speed and minion duration from puppet master. Phantasms in weapon and Zombies + skellies in body: 2.4 mill DPS. You get more life on the skellies, but less damage on the zombies for leech. " Baron is pretty hard to top for zombie builds. The zombie expert I chat with runs a whole range of different zombie builds, a few without the baron. He generally uses it, and goes for strength stacking plus geoffreys. This league he got 18.5K EHP using the core items, and could swap in queens escape for mapping, or an item rarity body armour for MF. That sort of synergy is hard to beat. |
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I can't use paste bin. Can you put your skill trees on another website plz.
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" It was in the levelling section, just a bit hard to notice. Here it is: https://www.pathofexile.com/build/qz3Ouz |
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