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Cher is using white supremacist dog-whistles like "taking care of its own". I'm literally shaking rn.
Please, Cher, tell us more about how much you've done to help vets. =9[.]9=
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Posted byRaycheetahon Apr 14, 2019, 10:24:30 PMAlpha Member
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See, this is the kind of Whataboutism that I'm sick of.
The way the US treated immigrant families during the Obama administration was unacceptable. The way the US treated immigrant families during the Trump administration was unacceptable.
Yes, the system then and now is compartmentalized in such a way where one agency puts restrictions on another and the Executive Branch points the finger at the Judicial who points it at Congress who points it... and so on. That's why I said "the US," not INS, not ICE, not Congress, not the courts. I don't know exactly who is to blame, or how much they are.
The point is that the US is failing in it's treatment of immigrant families, and has been failing for quite some time now. And all these excuses from partisans on both the right and the left are shamefully childish. What we need is people to take responsibility and fix it, not shift the blame to their political opponents as a way of negating their obligation. Every American worth their salt should view this problem as their fault, as their failure. This is never going to get fixed by chickenshits who see a crisis as an opportunity to villainize their political opponents.
Yeah, I don't know about this.
I'd like to say I'd agree with 70% of what you said here, but I'm not entirely sure how to dissect this.
So yeah, the world has problems.
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Posted byRPGlitchon Apr 14, 2019, 11:00:03 PM
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GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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Posted byXavderionon Apr 14, 2019, 11:08:23 PM
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See, this is the kind of Whataboutism that I'm sick of.
The way the US treated immigrant families during the Obama administration was unacceptable. The way the US treated immigrant families during the Trump administration was unacceptable.
Yes, the system then and now is compartmentalized in such a way where one agency puts restrictions on another and the Executive Branch points the finger at the Judicial who points it at Congress who points it... and so on. That's why I said "the US," not INS, not ICE, not Congress, not the courts. I don't know exactly who is to blame, or how much they are.
The point is that the US is failing in it's treatment of immigrant families, and has been failing for quite some time now. And all these excuses from partisans on both the right and the left are shamefully childish. What we need is people to take responsibility and fix it, not shift the blame to their political opponents as a way of negating their obligation. Every American worth their salt should view this problem as their fault, as their failure. This is never going to get fixed by chickenshits who see a crisis as an opportunity to villainize their political opponents.
Illegal immigration through the southern border is a mess and basically unsolvable. That's why I like Trump's approach with The Wall, if you can't solve it, you can at least disincentivize it. The Wall is the humanist thing to do, no more death & rape marches!
GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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Posted byXavderionon Apr 14, 2019, 11:08:43 PM
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What Trump implemented was called the zero tolerance policy. When people tried to come across the border with kids, they would be arrested and the kids were permanently taken away. I say permanently taken away because they were put into the data base system as unattended and the parents as unknown. There was no intent of ever returning the kids to the parents. The courts stopped this practice. This was not the practice prior to the Trump implementation of their zero tolerance policy.
The zero tolerance policy was also only in effect for less than 3 months, it wasn't the official policy position of the administration for most of Trump's time in office.
That position for most of that time, has always been a family separation policy, which began in Obama/Bush administration.
And this is because there were many cases, where separating families significantly reduced the amount of migrants coming into those areas. And by reducing migrants coming in, you reduce the number of people getting hurt or raped on the way to the border. Again, a morally good thing to do.
Arguably, you can say Trump did something bad, in this instance. And that it was a huge oversight to not include a procedure to reunite children. Honestly, it seems like they just forgot about it.
But you are stretching the truth if you saying there was never any intent to return the children to their parents, and by that implication a malicious intent of Trump to harm people.
If that was the case, Trump would have been charged with humanitarian crimes, which he was not.
There is a difference here. And its why we have a court of law.
Your assertions are far from reality. Almost as ridiculous as your baseless assertions that Trump's pants on fire lie about winning the popular vote if not for voting fraud is not a lie basically based only on your desire to believe the lies of a pathological liar.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Posted byTurtledoveon Apr 14, 2019, 11:49:06 PM
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Your assertions are far from reality. Almost as ridiculous as your baseless assertions that Trump's pants on fire lie about winning the popular vote if not for voting fraud is not a lie basically based only on your desire to believe the lies of a pathological liar.
You know at some point, you should go to a therapist. I can't imagine any of this behavior is healthy for you.
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Posted byRPGlitchon Apr 14, 2019, 11:57:20 PM
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Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Posted byTurtledoveon Apr 15, 2019, 12:23:30 AM
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See, this is the kind of Whataboutism that I'm sick of.
The way the US treated immigrant families during the Obama administration was unacceptable. The way the US treated immigrant families during the Trump administration was unacceptable.
Yes, the system then and now is compartmentalized in such a way where one agency puts restrictions on another and the Executive Branch points the finger at the Judicial who points it at Congress who points it... and so on. That's why I said "the US," not INS, not ICE, not Congress, not the courts. I don't know exactly who is to blame, or how much they are.
The point is that the US is failing in it's treatment of immigrant families, and has been failing for quite some time now. And all these excuses from partisans on both the right and the left are shamefully childish. What we need is people to take responsibility and fix it, not shift the blame to their political opponents as a way of negating their obligation. Every American worth their salt should view this problem as their fault, as their failure. This is never going to get fixed by chickenshits who see a crisis as an opportunity to villainize their political opponents.
Yeah, I don't know about this.
I'd like to say I'd agree with 70% of what you said here, but I'm not entirely sure how to dissect this.
So yeah, the world has problems.
I'm not saying Obama did right on the border, but going on about how bad he was isn't going to make him do anything. Barry doesn't have cause to give a fuck, not anymore — and little power, even if he did.
On the other hand, calling out politicians currently in office for their current failures might, if the volume is loud enough, get something to happen — whether at their hand, or the hand of a newly elected replacement.
You're living in the past by focusing on Obama. His time is over. Taking a demanding and unsatisfied stance towards Trump, current Senate Republicans, and current House Democrats is far more productive. Let the whole lot of them now that you're holding them all accountable, and if they don't deliver they can kiss your vote goodbye.
I don't care if you like Trump or not. He's not your boss; you are his boss. If you had a butler and you liked him, would you kiss his ass? It's one thing to stand up for your better employees, but it's pathetic to let them walk over you. Unglue your lips already, for fucks sake.
When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB on Apr 15, 2019, 12:39:31 AM
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Posted byScrotieMcBon Apr 15, 2019, 12:31:53 AM
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Your assertions are far from reality. Almost as ridiculous as your baseless assertions that Trump's pants on fire lie about winning the popular vote if not for voting fraud is not a lie basically based only on your desire to believe the lies of a pathological liar.
You know at some point, you should go to a therapist. I can't imagine any of this behavior is healthy for you.
Not a lie? Trump still repeats this stupid lie. Everyone but the most delusional Trump fans knows Trump lost the popular vote.
Nobody gives a rat's ass about the "popular vote" except crybaby liberals because THAT'S NOT HOW OUR ELECTIONS WORK.
Read a book, FFS.
There are two types of POE players:
1) Those who want to walk uphill both ways barefoot on broken glass wearing a blindfold
2) F*cking noobs
I identify as transnational Chinese. May I have access to their QOL features, please?
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Posted byMakilldaon Apr 15, 2019, 12:36:38 AM
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Nobody gives a rat's ass about the "popular vote" except crybaby liberals because THAT'S NOT HOW OUR ELECTIONS WORK.
Read a book, FFS.
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GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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Posted byXavderionon Apr 15, 2019, 12:50:53 AM
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