[3.3] HC RT Sunder Gladiator League Starter [Fully Updated]

Table of Contents

Pros & Cons
Tree
Gems
Gear
Ascendancy
Pantheon
Bandits
Leveling


Pros & Cons

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Pros:
- Cheap and easy to gear out
- Tanky as it stacks various forms of mitigation on top of a big life pool
- Easy to play
- Practically a ranged skill making it extra safe
- If you follow the guide it should be smooth sailing up to at least T9 maps

Cons:
- Not as fast BV Elementalist
- Not ideal for boss killing, not impossible though


Tree

This is the framework with which you want to end up at around level 85. From there you are free to choose depending on what you feel your build is lacking.

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Tree

Nodes to consider are:

Devotion, Bloodless, Berserking, Duality, Splitting Strikes, Ambidexterity, Quickstep and a couple of minor life nodes as well as Endurance Charges.


Gems

There are a number of items, such as Kaom's Roots, Tombfist and Bubonic Trail which limit the number of sockets available to you. You might have to drop some gems and move stuff around to fit everything.

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6-Link: Sunder - Multistrike - Conc Effect - Melee Phys - Maim - Damage on Full Life

- If you can't get enough Int for Conc Effect just use Ruthless

Movement: Leap Slam / Whirling Blades - Faster Attacks - Fortify - Blood Magic

- If your gear doesn't allow for a 4-Link try dropping Blood Magic. If you're using Soul Taker you won't need it.

Single Target: Vaal Double Strike - Melee Phys - Damage on Full Life - Bloodlust

- Pop this on bosses and hit with Sunder. Bloodlust should be pretty good against everything that isn't immune to bleeding. If you don't have bleed, when playing Jugg for instance, drop Bloodlust. If you only have 3 sockets drop Damage on Full Life or Melee Phys.

CWDT: Cast when Damage Taken - Immortal Call

- This really only requires 2 sockets and fits well in your Axe alongside Herald of Ash or in a 2 socket Tombfist or Bubonic Trail. If you have spare sockets Enfeeble and Inc Duration go well with it.

Prismatic Eclipse: Hatred - Bloodrage - Portal

- Portal can be replaced with Arctic Armour when using Soul Taker, it can otherwise replace Herald of Ash if you prefer it that way.

Also try squeezing an Enduring Cry in here somewhere.


Gear

Similar to Elementalist BV this build works very well on mediocre gear but can easily be taken to 100 with some very affordable gear upgrades if you really wanted to.
Make sure you have decent Life rolls on all your rares and that your Resistances are capped.

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- Your main-hand weapon should be a high pDPS rare axe or Soul Taker.

- Your off-hand is Prismatic Eclipse. It helps make Multistrike and Leap Slam / Whirling Blades feel less clunky.

- For boots you'll want Kaom's Roots or a pair of rare boots with Life, Resistances and MS. MS doesn't matter to Leap Slam but Whirling Blades scales with it.

- Belly of the Beast, Loreweave or a nice rare Chest with Life and Res is what you want for your Body Armour.

- The Belt I usually use is Belt of the Deceiver or a Stygian Vice with Life and Res

- Tombfist is where I get Intimidate from after dropping Deceiver, until then a rare pair with Life and Res is all you need.

- On your normal flasks you will need bleed and curse removal and freeze removal until you get Kaom's Roots. you should have an instant Life Flask and a Basalt Flask. For unique Flasks I recommend Atziri's Promise, Lion's Roar / Rumi's Concoction and if you can afford it a Taste of Hate.

- I like to use Jewellery to fix attribute requirements and later on down the road to get extra damage. Steel Rings, Phys as extra of another damage type maybe even a Warlord's Mark Ring. But a decent Life roll is most important.

- On Jewels you will want %-Life, Attack Speed and Damage. On Abyss Jewels you ideally want flat Life, flat Phys and Onslaught or Unholy Might but any DPS increase is nice on top of a T1 Life roll.
You can also use Jewels to help cap your Resistances if you feel the need to.



Ascendancy

It goes without saying that Sunder can be played with other classes and because of that I'll list some other Ascendancies in addition to Gladiator that can all use the Tree, Gems and Gear in this Guide.

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Gladiator:

- Blood in the Eyes > Gratuitous Violence > Painforged > Versatile Combatant

Slayer:

- Endless Hunger > Brutal Fervour > Headsman > Bane of Legends

Juggernaut:

- Unflinching > Unrelenting > Unbreakable > Undeniable


Pantheon

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Major Gods

- Lunaris for mapping and Solaris for bosses but I can never bring myself to switch back and forth between the two.

Minor Gods

- Shakari is pretty good with all the Chaos damage that's going on this League.


Bandits

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Kill all

If you really want Res you can just pick up nodes like Diamond Skin, Cloth and Chain and Sentinel.


Leveling:

- Leveling Trees

Rather than going by character level my leveling trees will be centered around milestones on the tree as this makes more sense to me.

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Tree 1

- After Art of the Gladiator > Resolute Technique.

Tree 2

- Golem's Blood > Slaughter > Juggernaut > Mana Leech

Tree 3

- Thick Skin > Herbalism > Weapon Artistry > Aspect of the Panther

Tree 4
Constitution > Vitality Void > Heart of Oak

From here on out it's picking up leftover Life nodes and miscellaneous nodes such as Charges, Sockets and Flask nodes.


- Leveling Gear / Gear Progression

Gearing this character is as easy as it gets. Don't shy away from using a couple Alts and Alchs to make some leveling gear, look at it as an investment.

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- For the main-hand weapon (sunder only swings with the main-hand hence only that weapon matters for damage numbers) you can use the Rustic Sash recipe (sell 1 magic / rare Rustic Sash + 1 Blacksmith's Whetstone + the weapon base) upgrading your weapon that way, also pick up rare axes that drop while leveling for potential upgrades. once you reach maps you should have an eye out for rare axes with decent DPS on poe.trade.

- Your off-hand can be The Princess if you have access to it. You could also use Aurumvorax for an easier time covering your resistances.

- Use a 4-Link, get to the Blood Aqueduct in Act 9 and farm Humility cards for a Tabula Rasa

- All you are looking for on your boots is movement speed, upgrade accordingly. If you happen to come across a pair of Wanderlust you can use those for a bit.

- Get the Quicksilver Flasks from the Tidal Island Quest; try to have bleed removal before Belly of the Beast(the zone) in Act 4; both Granite and Stibnite Flasks really help in Act 5 and onward; if you wanna click chests also get freeze removal; keep your Life Flasks up to date

while leveling try to cover your stat requirements as best as you can with the rest of your gear. I like to be as close to Res cap as possible at all times. Don't shy away from using a couple Alts and Alchs to make some leveling gear, see it as an investment.


- Leveling Gems

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- you get Cleave and Chance to Bleed from killing Hillock and Onslaught from Mercy Mission on Tidal Island (Act 1)

Cleave - Onslaught - Chance to Bleed

- swap Chance to Bleed for Added Fire after entering Lower Prison (Act 1)

Cleave - Onslaught - Added Fire

- swap Cleave for Sunder after entering the Cavern of Wrath (Act 1)

Sunder - Onslaught - Added Fire

- swap Added Fire for Melee Phys after killing The Weaver (Act 2)

Sunder - Onslaught - Melee Phys

- add Added Fire after acquiring a 4-Link (Act 3)

Sunder - Onslaught - Melee Phys - Added Fire

- swap Onslaught for Faster Attacks once / if you're using a Silver Flask

Sunder - Faster Attacks - Melee Phys - Added Fire

Level the other gems for the 6-Link in free sockets / the secondary weapon slots until you get your Tabula Rasa (Act 9).



- pick up Leap Slam after killing Brutus (Act 1)

Leap Slam

- add Faster Attacks after killing The Weaver (Act 2)

Leap Slam - Faster Attacks

- add Fortify after returning the 4 Golden Pages to Siosa if you have a 3-Link

Leap Slam - Faster Attacks - Fortify

- add Blood Magic when you can spare the 4-Link for it

Leap Slam - Faster Attacks - Fortify - Blood Magic



- Buy Immortal Call after the mission Breaking the Seal (Act 4) and Cast when Damage Taken during the Eternal Nightmare (Act 4)

Cast when Damage Taken - Immortal Call

- Do not level them past level 1 and 3 respectively



- Pick up Ancestral Protector for single target after entering the Submerged Passage (Act 1) and replace it with Ancestral Warchief after completing Sever the Right Hand (Act 3).

- Replace Ancestral Protector / Warchief with Vaal Double Strike once you got it and use that for single target instead.

- Link them with Support Gems if you can.

- Pick up Herald of Ash, Blood Rage and Enduring Cry after Intruders in Black (Act 2).

- Activate Herald of Ash and also try getting into the habit of using Blood Rage and Enduring Cry if you're not used to them.
Last edited by WorstSmitesEU on Jun 20, 2018 11:11:42 AM
Last bumped on May 31, 2018 11:25:52 PM
Why are you taking the Thick Skin life nodes when Armour, Evasion, Life is open?
Last edited by CynthiaCrescent on Jul 15, 2017 7:53:01 AM
Well... you could give this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhdy-EVNBLI at least some credits.

Dosen't matter if you call it generic. Skill Tree, Explanation and so on looks like a big copy paste.
Out of curiousity why take whirling blades over leap slam? Being able to jump across gaps and such seems so much better to me.

Using LS atm in 2wk and im moving incredibly fast.
Last edited by Graandor on Jul 15, 2017 1:55:00 PM
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Out of curiousity why take whirling blades over leap slam? Being able to jump across gaps and such seems so much better to me.

Using LS atm in 2wk and im moving incredibly fast.


Have to agree. WB and LS are both clunky but LS has more utility and feels better for me. Awesome build
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SirFaulix wrote:
Well... you could give this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhdy-EVNBLI at least some credits.

Dosen't matter if you call it generic. Skill Tree, Explanation and so on looks like a big copy paste.


The tree and gear imo is pretty refined and there is really only so much you can do with RT Phys Sunder. I don't know when this guy(the D3 Alkaizer?) made his character but I've been using Sunder ever since EQ got gutted. I could however link this video as i don't currently have the means of making one myself and this is practically the same build, I'll ask him for permission.
Last edited by WorstSmitesEU on Jul 16, 2017 5:26:08 AM
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Completed 8 ChallengesGraandor wrote:
Out of curiousity why take whirling blades over leap slam? Being able to jump across gaps and such seems so much better to me.

Using LS atm in 2wk and im moving incredibly fast.


I used LS in Breach on this character and before on my melees (back when 2H wasn't horrible)
and I personally never liked it so I was actually trying to get away from it, but if you like LS better by all means use it. I will also add it as an option for the movement skill to the guide.
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Why are you taking the Thick Skin life nodes when Armour, Evasion, Life is open?


You are correct in that the 'Armour, Evasion and Life' nodes are better than the life nodes around Thick Skin, keep in mind though that Unwavering Stance from Kaom's Roots negates the evasion portion making it worse than all the other life nodes except for the small ones around Thick Skin. Thanks for the heads up.
Hey, I'm doing a similar build to this on the 2week race. What would you change for berzerker? Do you think berzerker is worth it? I know you mention it in the main text.
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Completed 11 Challengesm0onknight wrote:
Hey, I'm doing a similar build to this on the 2week race. What would you change for berzerker? Do you think berzerker is worth it? I know you mention it in the main text.


I think Berzerker has potential but i haven't done enough testing to be certain about it, the left side of the tree should look pretty much the same on the right however I'm not sure, maybe pick up Vaal Pact, but then you'd have to gain frenzy charges some other way (the daresso sword off-hand maybe?). Also Berzerker doesn't synergize with block as well as Gladiator does. I wish i could give more solid advice but that's all I've got.

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