Rural America is in a bad shape.

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Coffeyville officials said the area's problem isn't a lack of jobs -- it's a shortage of qualified workers. After Amazon said it would close, economic-development leaders held an employment fair expecting to get up to 600 job seekers. Fewer than 100 showed up, said Trisha Purdon, executive director of the Montgomery County Action Council.


Story goes on about drug use and mother of 5 at 25 (single OFC) - deadbeats poor life choices

It's a dog eat dog world last thing you need is drugs and shit to lower your marketabilty. Way I see it you got 20-30 good working years looking at my dad whos knees (he was a lineman for electric company) are shot eyes cant see up close and stuff. Make best of it clean smart choices and save to which Albert Einstein declared compound interest to be 'the most powerful force in the universe' so you can be happy and do what you want later.
Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep on May 27, 2017, 5:08:20 AM
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morbo wrote:
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Aim_Deep wrote:
Americans have gotten lazy by in large. Worst thing ever is social welfare as it makes people weak, dependent, and infantile to point many are unemployable.. Adversity makes you stronger.

Westerners in general got entitled and don't want to do "dirty" jobs. People think that they will easily get the exact (&high paying) job they studied for, as long as they can imagine it in their dreams. Wrong. So you now have "educated" millennials leeching welfare, while the job market badly needs craftsmen and other "dirty"-skilled people, which have now to be imported.

I don't get American students - you have to actually pay for your high education degrees and still study useless crap, instead of what is currently hot on the job market?!? Imagine if education was "free" and millions would waste taxpayer money to get some unemployable "social science" degree.

This whole approach is wrong. First check the economy and job market, then decide your studies. Yo can learn lesbian dance theory in your free time, don't need 4 years of college and 100k debt for that.


We have some pay in full some pay none and everything in between. Basically concept everyone should be in school depending how rich parents are is what you pay. Thats ok more work for me. My theory is you do opposite what everyone else is doing. Like if stock market crash you buy. Plus I have other entrepreneurial ambitions. I was "home schooled" in business.

Git R Dun!
Last edited by Aim_Deep on May 27, 2017, 5:31:34 AM
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Deadpeng wrote:
Glory to China is all I can say.


China will have same issues one day as they get richer. Then all they make now will move to africa or back to usa lol. The cost of Chinese labor is already getting higher than Mexico.
Git R Dun!
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Aim_Deep wrote:
I was "home schooled" in business.

I home schooled myself in everything I'm doing now (IT stuff). Going to the university was a waste for me (just a waste of time, since it was free here in EU socialism). I have friends who barely finished middle school (or "high school", whatever, from 14 - 18 yo) and have businesses now.

High education is overrated. STEM / IT is the only high edu. that will give you some bang for your buck, but only if you actually worked to get it, and not though some "positive discrimination" governmental handouts. And with the Internet you can self teach for very cheap a ton of useful skills nowadays.
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soneka101 wrote:
Rural America is the New 'Inner City'

It seems that "Make America Great Again" wasn't completely nonsense, people could have been more specific tho, "MRAGA".

People really seems to be in worse shape than I thought, still, I'm not sure if Trump is doing anything effective to help these people. Giving tax cuts to rich people won't help them, cutting social programs seems even worse. I wonder if getting rid of illegal immigrants will do much too.


Sound like a strategy. Cut off all their entitlements and force them back to work. WORK OR DIE.
You can't expect the government to take care of you. You need to take 100% responsibility for your life, no matter who's president or in what shape the market is right now. Adapt or die.
GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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deathflower wrote:
Sound like a strategy. Cut off all their entitlements and force them back to work. WORK OR DIE.

Do you realize that someone has to work for those entitlements in any case? If you are concerned for the "poor guy" on welfare, you should also be concerned for the "poor guy" that will have his taxes raised to sustain the former.

Living on other people's labor should not be a valid long term lifestyle. You either have a big welfare system, but limit the population (limits on # of kids & immigration), or you have 'unlimited' population, but limited or no welfare. If you try to have both, you inevitably end up with a typical socialist failed state, which always sucks dry the people who produce, to feed those who don't.
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In impenetrable darkness
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Aim_Deep wrote:
Im not going to college poor opportunity cost. I started driving heavy equipment at 13 in summers. By end of HS I ran 14 guys (mostly immigrants ofc) I run articulating booms, back hoe, dump truck, crane, etc so at 21 I'm pretty useful if you eed something built.

Bottom line make yourself useful. Money will come.


I would point out that if those first job been done at your father s one, you just are a lucky guy with familly connection.

(like Trump btw)
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morbo wrote:
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deathflower wrote:
Sound like a strategy. Cut off all their entitlements and force them back to work. WORK OR DIE.

Do you realize that someone has to work for those entitlements in any case? If you are concerned for the "poor guy" on welfare, you should also be concerned for the "poor guy" that will have his taxes raised to sustain the former.

Living on other people's labor should not be a valid long term lifestyle. You either have a big welfare system, but limit the population (limits on # of kids & immigration), or you have 'unlimited' population, but limited or no welfare. If you try to have both, you inevitably end up with a typical socialist failed state, which always sucks dry the people who produce, to feed those who don't.


We didn't think of it that way. People pay the government and the government pay for us. It isn't welfare, we are entitled to our entitlements. We pay for it. Unemployed are the minority and Welfare is temporary with requirement and limitation. It is more like insurance. You don't get shit out of it by not getting sick or injured. It safeguard against major cost and risk. You get more out of the system by breaking a leg, but you don't hope to ever use it. You don't hope to lose your job either.
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Aim_Deep wrote:
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Deadpeng wrote:
Glory to China is all I can say.


China will have same issues one day as they get richer. Then all they make now will move to africa or back to usa lol. The cost of Chinese labor is already getting higher than Mexico.


I've heard they are already changing their economy to rely on services instead of manufacturing.

I didn't read everything, but here's an article that has such headline:

http://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-economy-is-changing-2015-9

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